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Old 05-27-2008, 09:20 PM   #331 (permalink)
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I feel great, have high energy, the workouts are great. I am 100% with the food and I am getting more carbs than I did for the last 5 months on TNT. Tomorrow morning will be my first week weigh-in, and I'll report in. So far, 2.5 lbs.
LOL more carbs than TNT? No wonder you feel so great
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Old 05-28-2008, 04:50 PM   #332 (permalink)
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MissJane, how many carbs/day is it for you on WSFL?
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I'm not sure, Natalia because everything is laid out and there is no counting. For instance, on some days, I get 3 small servings of fruit and/or veggies. I've been having fruit, which obviously has more carbs than most veggies. BUT, I've been missing my fruit! Don't get me wrong......it's still low carb/low cal, but it's a bit of a different spin on carb cycling for me.
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I am trying to follow the 130 pound meal template. It is roughly 140 grams protein; 0, 27, or 54 grams carbs [depending on the day--you can only have starch (27 grams) on the high day], and 55 grams fat. These numbers are a little off when you actually plug in food choices because many of the food choices have a few grams of other nutrients (fat in protein choices etc).
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Well I just have to jump in here and praise the program. I am on day 3 and loving it. I love the fact I don't have to spend any time trying to figure out macros and what foods fit where and if I am hitting my marks. I am not in a panic anymore about what I am eating. I slowly gained back 15 pounds after losing 60 trying to keto/carb cyle/PN and it just wasn't working. I ended up getting pudgy. The training is great as well. I tried the NROLW and wasn't fond off it. So I am 100% committed to this program for the 28 days and see what happens. As for the cost of the program. It is well worth it to me. I have spend way more on other books and programs. I figure any money spent on knowledge is worth it. You can always learn something and knowledge is priceless.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:28 PM   #336 (permalink)
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If there was a "one" time fee, with guaranteed result?? I would be all over it..... The problem is there are way too many of them for a (insert descriptive here ) like me to comprehend. For a once in a lifetime offer with "guaranteed" result??? Well.. sorry but for the four or five people that have bought it here.... I need way more than that??

This is after all just one internet site in the blip of the existing world??

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How in the world can any diet or workout plan GUARANTEE results for everyone? Nobody can MAKE you be compliant and nobody can babysit you to make sure you are. There are tons of other factors that will affect everyone differently. WSFL does, however, come with a 100% satisfaction warranty. So, if in 60 days, you aren't satisfied, go get your money back.
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I'm not sure, Natalia because everything is laid out and there is no counting. For instance, on some days, I get 3 small servings of fruit and/or veggies. I've been having fruit, which obviously has more carbs than most veggies. BUT, I've been missing my fruit! Don't get me wrong......it's still low carb/low cal, but it's a bit of a different spin on carb cycling for me.
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I am trying to follow the 130 pound meal template. It is roughly 140 grams protein; 0, 27, or 54 grams carbs [depending on the day--you can only have starch (27 grams) on the high day], and 55 grams fat. These numbers are a little off when you actually plug in food choices because many of the food choices have a few grams of other nutrients (fat in protein choices etc).
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1-1.5g of protein per lb of LBM
carbs no higher than 50g (vary with activity levels daily)
fats - the rest (subtract from your dieting total cals)

I wonder why WSFL calls for 0 carbs...Are they trying to reach ketosis?
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The 0 carb day is only one day per week on the rest day.

I really like how the program is laid out. If you are prepared with good food choices, it is very easy to follow. I followed it for a week and a half and lost 4 pounds. Our family has been sick with colds and the stomach flu the last week so my diet has been way off track. After my tummy stops gargling, I am going to start again.

I also really like the workout plan. Intense, but you are not working out for hours each day.

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yeah, that makes sense....Lyle's advice in his dieting down books is similar

1-1.5g of protein per lb of LBM
carbs no higher than 50g (vary with activity levels daily)
fats - the rest (subtract from your dieting total cals)

I wonder why WSFL calls for 0 carbs...Are they trying to reach ketosis?
No higher than 50g a day in carbs!!! I would die!
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No higher than 50g a day in carbs!!! I would die!
Nah, you won't. I thought so too at first. It's quite doable, especially knowing re-feed is coming soon
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How often are you re-feeding right now? What constitues a re-feed? (how many carbs?) I am pretty happy right now at 150g of carbs a day and seem to be losing at that. I am down to the final 8lbs though and know that I may have to do something more drastic.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:39 PM   #343 (permalink)
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Just to jump in here. I'm in the middle of my second week. Down 5.5lbs so far. A friend of mine is in the middle of the 4th week, he's down 14lbs. (He got a head start on me while I was fighting a cold.) I haven't eaten a single one of the pre-planned meals, but am using the easy to follow template to stick to the recommendations. Actually the nutrition is brilliant, and makes eating a piece of cake. My buddy is very loosely following the nutritional plan, but still getting good results. I'd like to get a similar nutirtional template for maintenance, or even hypertrophy recommendations. No breaking down macro nutrients, or looking at food labels. They've already done that and you can easily calculate how much of a food makes up a serving. Then its a matter of how many servings you need to hit the requirements for each meal.

Co-workers are asking what I'm up to, and its only been 1.5 weeks. The nutrition portion is laid out so well its very easy to follow, even if you don't want to eat the meals/foods recommended. I was worried about the no carb day, but it wasn't bad at all. I'm not aware of any re-feeds until the program is done.

I'm very pleased thus far. Its a mindset though. A very specific mindset. Buckle down and get it over with. There are lots of ways to attack fat loss. In fact each of the authors has other programs designed to meet the same goal. This one is for achieving your fat loss now. A program where you decide you are going to be done in 4 weeks and meet your goals.

You certainly could choose to take a 16 week plan or longer, if thats what you want. Last summer I completed Afterburn, a great program, and lost 14 lbs over 12-14 weeks. Very effective program, but 12-14 weeks of hard dieting is a long time, its easy to stray on the weekend since you still have 9 weeks to go and figure you can make it up later. The light at the end of the tunnel is very small.

With this program from day 1 you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Its only 27,26,25 days a way. That makes it very easy to focus.

There was a backlash against the marketing, but did you check out the pre-release material. Thats where the real marketing was done. Audio interviews, research studies. You can even try out the first workout in the program and see what you think. You can still check it out at Warp Speed Fat Loss Blog.

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How often are you re-feeding right now? What constitues a re-feed? (how many carbs?) I am pretty happy right now at 150g of carbs a day and seem to be losing at that. I am down to the final 8lbs though and know that I may have to do something more drastic.
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Oh, and please no PMs asking for my info on re-feeds. Everyone's different and a 'cookie-cut' approach will not work here. Thanx.
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I'm totally PMing you.
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Ha-ha! Finally! I've been waiting for it for soooo long!
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How in the world can any diet or workout plan GUARANTEE results for everyone? Nobody can MAKE you be compliant and nobody can babysit you to make sure you are. There are tons of other factors that will affect everyone differently. WSFL does, however, come with a 100% satisfaction warranty. So, if in 60 days, you aren't satisfied, go get your money back.
If the fee covered Cosgrove staying at your house with abullwhip, success could be guaranteed.
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anyone still doing Warpspeed care to comment on their results? I'm on Day 6 and down about 4lbs. already. I'm pretty suprised actually because the calorie difference isn't very far off from where i was before. The workouts have been pretty taxing but I haven't had a problem with the nutrition aspect.

Just curious to see if those farther along have continued to experience good results.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:58 PM   #350 (permalink)
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Well, I am torn. I was about 12 days in and had stalled out on weight loss. However, then I re-evaluated an injury I had and decided I really had to take a step back.

So, I am doing modified WSFL workouts, but can't use my wrist, so adding other stuff on as well. Doing more LISS and HIIT while my wrist heals.

Eating-wise, I am following a sort of TNT/WSFL hybrid plan. Once my wrist is healed....I may tackle WSFL again from the beginning. I only want to lose about 5-7 more pounds, so I'll have to see where I am at that time.

I think that for someone who has about 20 lbs to lose, WSFL would work terrifically. For me, I've been on TNT since January and am very close to goal. So, these last few pounds are just plain difficult to budge.
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Been a while since I've given an update, so figured I'd report as I'm nearing the end of the program........

Since starting the program, I've lost 6 pounds and approximately 4% bodyfat. I know I've gained some muscle, so that affects the weight loss #. Overall, since 2 weeks prior to starting the program, I've lost 12 pounds. And since December, I've lost 16 pounds. I plan on posting new pics in the next couple of days to measure my progress.

I really stalled out in the last week of the program. My #'s did not change at all this last week, but that is mostly my fault for changing things up in the program a bit. I was really getting burnt out with the workouts by the fourth week. My intensity in the lifting circuits was no where near as great as in the beginning, so I switched up some of the exercises to get some variety. Also, my legs were dead from all of the intervals. So, I suffered from less intense workouts. On my lifting days, instead of doing the interval running afterward, I preceded the lifting with a 1 mile jog. And on my cardio days, instead of intervals followed by a 20 minute jog, I did a 2 mile jog followed by some interval sprints.

I also wasn't as consistent with the diet. Primarily, I was not as exact with my portion sizes, and I also did not have my snacks as prescribed. I did not stray one bit from the foods in the diet--ok, ok, I did have one BITE of pizza one night. But other than that, I continued to eat the foods listed in the meal plans.

This lack of dedication to the program cost me any additional gains. Although I did not do anything negative that would affect my progress--such as eating poor food choices or just not working out at all--I did enough to not reach my goal, which was to lose 2 more pounds. I enjoyed the program and the progress that I made, but I think the program lacks variety to keep a person interested for 4 weeks. I know that the weight loss is supposed to be the primary motivation factor, but when you've been workng your ass off at the same exercises, and you've been eating the same foods over and over in a strict lo-carb diet, it really takes it's toll mentally and physically. I would like to see a little more variety in the program--more exercise options, more cardio options, and more recipes.

Although I have seen great progress, I am to the point where I used to always get--all I have left is that last bit of stubborn fat. I have no desire to go thru this program anytime soon. I am going to allow myelf to eat whatever I want next week--within moderation--and then I am beginning the Power Training strength program along with a cardio workout and meal template that I created myself. I will be posting the meal plan to get opinions on it, as my goal will be to gain muscle and strength while still trying to get leaner.
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Please post back her after next week your stats again. It will be interesting to see if you see a large gain of water from low carb for so long.

Thanks for the progress report. From what I am reading in the various logs this program has not really worked as prescribed for anyone who has attempted it. Still it seems to have some value for the first 2 weeks.
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I would agree--the first 2 weeks were the most beneficial--it kinda shocked the system. I will report back after next week before I start the next program. I am going to do a lot of "make-up" eating I'm sure. But I plan on doing double sessions of cardio on each day to help offset the damage I'm going to be doing!
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Well it would be hard for you to put on too much actual fat in just one week but it would be interesting if you gained 5 or 6 lbs because that would tell us that some of the weight you lost on this low carb program was water or other.

Thanks for keeping this up.
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I started WSFL at 138.8 lbs. As of Day 17, I was 128.8 lbs. I would probably be further along, but I cheated 4 or 5 times. I hope to drop at least 5 - 7 more lbs. Maybe I will take a short break, and do a couple more weeks, who knows. I'll see how things go.
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I started WSFL at 138.8 lbs. As of Day 17, I was 128.8 lbs. I would probably be further along, but I cheated 4 or 5 times. I hope to drop at least 5 - 7 more lbs. Maybe I will take a short break, and do a couple more weeks, who knows. I'll see how things go.
Any reason for the short break?
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Not really. I might just tack on another week or two without a break, to see what happens. I looked at the FAQ, and Alwyn wrote that it should be okay to do that. I will have to see where I am in 10 days. But I like the results so far.
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Oh sorry, I thought you meant take a short break now and then pick up where you left off
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I know that the weight loss is supposed to be the primary motivation factor, but when you've been workng your ass off at the same exercises, and you've been eating the same foods over and over in a strict lo-carb diet, it really takes it's toll mentally and physically. I would like to see a little more variety in the program--more exercise options, more cardio options, and more recipes.
or nice carb load days
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or nice carb load days
Yeah, now instead, I'll be having a carb loading week! I'm interested to see how much of an appetite I actually have the first couple days.....
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