TIMED SETS/20MINS AS MANY SETS OF 3 AS POSSIBLE - JP Fitness Forums

THEBEAST · 04-21-2008, 07:55 AM

Anybody tried this before?I read an article over on t-nation bt christian thibadeau and he said doing 3reps as many times as you can in 20minutes is a good way to bump up strength?

What do you guys think about it?I tried it today i did 20x3reps with 100kg it felt pretty good but i could have done around 105-110kg but it was good for my first try.

Bill2380 · 04-21-2008, 08:33 AM

Sounds a lot like Charles Stahley's EDT program. I did it for a while, but found it hard on my elbows.

RobLL · 04-21-2008, 08:36 AM

Charles Staley discussions this sort of thing, calling it Escalating Density Training. It's one of my favorites.

Book Title: Muscle Logic
Amazon.com: Muscle Logic : Escalating Density Training: Charles Staley: Books

GG300 · 04-21-2008, 09:39 AM

I agree with Rob, I did the EDT program and had good results from it.

Lost Dog · 04-21-2008, 10:00 AM

It's not like EDT. The 20 minutes is just a coincidence.

It's not really about how much you can lift. Did you do 80% of your 1RM this week? Next week is 2 reps at 85%, etc.

With this particular part you're teaching your body to lift more rather than just building muscle. All the elements in this program (and then the elements in parts 2-3) are working together.

If anyone's interested, here's the article. Part 1 of 3.

TESTOSTERONE NATION - Beast Building, Part 1

THEBEAST · 04-21-2008, 01:27 PM

Thanks some great info,never heard of EDT training to be honest i only read a little on t-nation and most of the other time i read books.

THEBEAST · 04-21-2008, 01:29 PM

Actually now that where on the subject what workouts have given you guys the best strength gains in terms of increasing your 1rm?I am in need of a change pretty soon.

justinbass · 04-21-2008, 11:15 PM

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Actually now that where on the subject what workouts have given you guys the best strength gains in terms of increasing your 1rm?I am in need of a change pretty soon.

Read "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe and Lon Kilgore.

Amazon.com: Starting Strength (2nd edition): Mark Rippetoe,Lon Kilgore: Books

THEBEAST · 04-22-2008, 01:46 AM

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Read "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe and Lon Kilgore.

Amazon.com: Starting Strength (2nd edition): Mark Rippetoe,Lon Kilgore: Books

Book looks amazing however its a little hard to get in the u.k for some reason,amazon(uk) dont have it in stock

JoshDunn · 04-22-2008, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by THEBEAST

Anybody tried this before?I read an article over on t-nation bt christian thibadeau and he said doing 3reps as many times as you can in 20minutes is a good way to bump up strength?

What do you guys think about it?I tried it today i did 20x3reps with 100kg it felt pretty good but i could have done around 105-110kg but it was good for my first try.

What exercise was that? Bench?

THEBEAST · 04-22-2008, 06:44 AM

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What exercise was that? Bench?

Yes bench press joshDunn?Why do you ask?

I see you are into kettlebell stuff,would an 8kg kettlebell be good for a conditioning tool do you think?as i can these pretty cheap but only this size

sorry for going off subject

justinbass · 04-22-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by THEBEAST

Book looks amazing however its a little hard to get in the u.k for some reason,amazon(uk) dont have it in stock

Find a way to get it if you can. It is that good.

StuWard · 04-22-2008, 08:00 AM

Take a look at these sites:
Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version
StrongLifts 5×5 Beginner Strength Training Program | StrongLifts.com
Guide to Novice Barbell Training, aka the Official RIPPETOE-STARTING STRENGTH FAQ - Bodybuilding.com Forums

These should give you some information on "Starting Strength" and also give you some guidance wrt your question in your other post about setting up a program for pure strength.

Stu

JoshDunn · 04-22-2008, 04:45 PM

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What exercise was that? Bench?

I'm actually picking up my 8kg one today (from the freight depot). I think it would be far too light for you to get anything really out of it. Thats the beginner weight for females.

If you actually wanted one then you might have to pay more and get a 16kg or 20kg one.

Kettlebells are expensive but my house doesn't have potential for a home gym and kettlebells are very space friendly although fairly pricey.

chris_f · 04-22-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by StuWard

Take a look at these sites:
Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version
StrongLifts 5×5 Beginner Strength Training Program | StrongLifts.com
Guide to Novice Barbell Training, aka the Official RIPPETOE-STARTING STRENGTH FAQ - Bodybuilding.com Forums

These should give you some information on "Starting Strength" and also give you some guidance wrt your question in your other post about setting up a program for pure strength.

Stu

Anyone here used the above linked Stronglifts 5x5? The guy who made the site seems arrogant as hell, but the workout seems pretty decent. Of course, eh also advocates using that same routine for 2 months or more (until you can squat 1.5 times your bodyweight), and it seems heavily biased towards pushing exercises.

StuWard · 04-23-2008, 08:11 AM

I haven't used Stronglifts, I've done Madcow. The program should be OK since it's a blatant ripoff from "Starting Strength", he just add some sets. He does have an attitude but he's in regular communication with Mark Rippetoe and Glenn Pendlay.

StuWard · 04-23-2008, 08:23 AM

I haven't used Stronglifts, I've done Madcow. The program should be OK since it's a blatant ripoff from "Starting Strength", he just add some sets. He does have an attitude but he does seem to be in regular communication with Mark Rippetoe and Glenn Pendlay. Some people like it because it's written in easier to understand language than the others. I think the squatting volume is too high.

Stu

chris_f · 04-23-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by StuWard

I haven't used Stronglifts, I've done Madcow. The program should be OK since it's a blatant ripoff from "Starting Strength", he just add some sets. He does have an attitude but he does seem to be in regular communication with Mark Rippetoe and Glenn Pendlay. Some people like it because it's written in easier to understand language than the others. I think the squatting volume is too high.

Stu

That's what I was wondering (squatting) - seems like there's much more of a focus on pushing than pulling in that routine, and I'm of the belief that most average people are weaker on the pulling side than pushing side.