You have ZERO credentials "PowerManDL". The facts are gentle movements burn fat. Fast movements burn sugar. These two types of calories are NOT interchangeable.
You have ZERO credentials "PowerManDL". The facts are gentle movements burn fat. Fast movements burn sugar. These two types of calories are NOT interchangeable.
That's nice. Go play outside now, sweetheart.
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What are YOUR credentials "PowerManDL"??? Let me guess, being a fat powerlifter?
I will find the references to my EPOC claims and show them. EPOC is basically and excuse for fatties to do less work.
Also those heavy squats you do will have you feeling it by 50. can you say knee replacement surgery?
I am neither fat, nor a powerlifter, but do some pretty heavy work in the gym. I suppose, since I am pushing 60 that I am about 10 years overdue for knee replacement.
I have no credentials. I have no letters after my name. I have my body and my experience and your argument for "gentle" exercise is the smoke and mirrors that has contributed to making this country soft and out of shape and put it on the brink of, if not already in the throes of, an obesity epidemic.
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Susan -- So far you've done everything EXCEPT back up your claims with medline-indexed research. That's what you should be providing at the bare minimum, not Youtube clips. All you've done is repeat yourself & issue personal attacks while attempting to deflect the argument.
PubMed is full of studies supporting my claims. Do a search.
Also there is no obesity epidemic. If you actually looked at the data from the Center For Disease Control they admit this.
Thridly, gentle excercise does NOT contribute to obsity. Walk for 3 hours , see how obese you are. Or do "'HIIT". We'll see who loses more weight (fat).
An hour-2 hours of walking almost everyday melts fat right off of you far better than 15 minutes of HIIT dreamed of.
Susan, assuming you're real (and I have no reason to doubt that you aren't), I will say that you have cajones for coming into an obvious hostile environment to debate your case. So props to you on that.
Regarding your subject matter, I know that P-man has no "credentials" but so far he has made a much better argument for his position (once I eliminate both of your back and forth insults, which I request to stop on all sides!). If you are relying simply on the fact that you have a PhD, that in and of itself is a fallacious appeal to authority.
The PhD isn't supposed to grant you final authority... It's supposed to mean that you have completed course-work and mastered the language of your chosen craft, which also means that you should be able to easily support your own claims as you should have all sorts of supporting research. It's not a religion, so your world view should not be threatened if presented with better or more up to date research. If anything, your background should make you dispassionate about any data presented.
I am not attacking you here. On the contrary, I am stepping in as the forum's host to welcome you and to request that EVERYONE reading this thread (including you) take a more civil tone. Thanks for joining us and I look forward to this continued debate.
Dr. Harmony - since you appear to be attempting to argue from authority, I'd appreciate it if you would tell us area of your doctorate and the institution that granted your Ph.D.
I am "Dr. Wot" on answers yahoo. You can see my references there. It will save me a lot of typing.
I just did a Yahoo search for "Dr. Wot" and it returned no results.
Can you please tell us a little more about yourself, Dr. Harmony? I cannot locate any publications by you after some pretty extensive searching.
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PubMed is full of studies supporting my claims. Do a search.
You made the claims. You do the posting to back them up.
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Also there is no obesity epidemic. If you actually looked at the data from the Center For Disease Control they admit this.
I believe I used the words "on the brink of, if not already in the throes of." That, I will stand by, the CDC notwithstanding.
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Thridly, gentle excercise does NOT contribute to obsity. Walk for 3 hours , see how obese you are. Or do "'HIIT". We'll see who loses more weight (fat).
Read my lips. Nobobdy looking to lose significant fat is going to walk for three hours. Most won't do it for 30 minutes. Hell, they won't even walk from their cars to the store until they have burned a half tank of gas looking for the closest parking space. You have forgotten the key ingredient, your target audience. Your ivory tower has given you tunnel vision.
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An hour-2 hours of walking almost everyday melts fat right off of you far better than 15 minutes of HIIT dreamed of.
And 15 minutes of HIIT 3 times a week will give them time for things like, a life, family, obligations, work, hobbies AND an occasional walk.
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Thats what I was hoping for too. I find it hard to believe that a Ph.D can't provide such a simple answer to a question on her credentials. I don't like being put on a run-around and that's what this feels like.
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"squats will ruin your knees by the time your 50"
"sat fat is bad for the heart"
"low intensity cardio burns more fat"
"NFL players are good sprinters, but fat."
If this is in fact a real person (which I don't beleive what-so-ever) there is no way they would use as much bro science as this person. whats next, eating to much cholesterol is 100% linked to blood cholesterol levels?
so - either Jamie has a troll and brought her here or Jamie has a legit adversary but someone created a troll persona here to mess with us (but last week was Apr 1st) -
so - either Jamie has a troll and brought her here or Jamie has a legit adversary but someone created a troll persona here to mess with us (but last week was Apr 1st) -
I think this Susan is the same Susan who Jamie has been debating with via email. No real proof of that, just a hunch. Now, whether she's real or a troll with extra time to kill will be conclusively determined once she either accepts or denies to give us some proof of identity -- which after 3 pages of avoidance, probably won't happen.
Still no credentials, eh, Doc? So apparently the Dr. and PhD are in screen name only.
For the record, despite my screen name, I am not a race car driver.
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An easy mud stomping? Maybe for me it was. HIIT does not elicit the overall calorie burn that walking for 2 hours will.
I've said what I needed to say, I won't comment any further.
While I believe this is a troll the sad thing is that this actually pretty close to the common information given and passed off by general RD and PT's.
So what about this to bite your logic...
Outside of my house is a hill.
Bill decides he is going to walk up and down the hill at a steady pace for 2 hours.
I decide that for the next 2 hours I am going to run up the hill with everything I got and then walk down it to cool down. Now granted the "all I got" may be pathetic after an hour in but still each time I approach the hill I am going to give my all up it.
Who burns more calories in that two hours?
Also (and I don't really think you can handle the conversation) what about the hormonal response that occurs for all that prolonged training, energy switch overs, are you aware of the ease of blunting fat burning after an hour of exercise? Are you involving refueling and the balancing of electrolytes? Where is your stance on nutrition during this 2-3 hour span of walking time?
The list goes on and on.
Why not actually support your information with facts and propose a solid argument. I think you are a troll BUT because we actually have dealt with people this stupid I wouldn't be completely surprised. Though why you would be on yahoo Canada and be located in PA is interesting...but that is beside the point right.
PA peeps do love their amish.
Oh and for the record I think HIIT and Interval Training is wrongly done and the majority of people doing it should be walking but that's a whole other topic.
The fact remains, very long walks or runs burn A LOT more calories than HIIT.
Burning calories BFD Lady. I used to walk for hours everydayalong with changes in my diet to lose weight. Nothing and I mean ABSOLUTELY nothing changed in my body until I added weight resistance to the matrix....I lost inches that wouldn't BUDGE with walking. I'd rather have the LEAN muscle mass I have than be a skinny fat chick with No muscle what so ever.
So until you are willing to cough up the credentials you say you have, I'd take PMDL's word any day of the week over yours because he's at least giving citations to the research.
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