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Old 10-13-2005, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Never really been a cardio buff, at least until nearly all of my pants got too damn small for me. But, I have started, and currently do a HITT type w/o, I walk at 3 mph for a minute, run at 5.5 for a minute, and continue for 20 minutes, then walk at 3 for 12, and mix in a few more minutes of jogging.

Wow, that's a ramble (I just finished my cardio, must be light headed). But my question is - what does everyone take after a similiar session? PWO? Water? Aspirin? What say you?
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally, I play it by ear. I do HIIT first thing in the a.m., generally between 5:30 and 6:30. My sugar levels are pretty low that time of day so I drink a protein shake made with gatorade. Drink about 1/3 or so before, 1/3 or so during & 1/3 or so right after. I've played around with some other things and I get light-headed pretty easily unless I stick with this. The next meal depends on how my body reacts to the workout. Some days, it seems like my response is similar to an intense weight training session and I get hungry soon after.

My suggestion would be to get a few ideas and tweak them for your own - see what works for you.

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Personally, I play it by ear. I do HIIT first thing in the a.m., generally between 5:30 and 6:30. My sugar levels are pretty low that time of day so I drink a protein shake made with gatorade. Drink about 1/3 or so before, 1/3 or so during & 1/3 or so right after. I've played around with some other things and I get light-headed pretty easily unless I stick with this. The next meal depends on how my body reacts to the workout. Some days, it seems like my response is similar to an intense weight training session and I get hungry soon after.

My suggestion would be to get a few ideas and tweak them for your own - see what works for you.

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Old 10-13-2005, 01:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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appreciate it Ted. I can remember some posts here sayng they did a pwo afterwards, but was unclear on whether or not that impeded the weight loss goals.
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll usually drink a 1:1 carb/protein drink after HIIT, which is about half as many carbs in my weight training PWO. This is mainly (in my mind) to help repair muscle and replenish glycogen stores and hasn't impeded any sort of fat loss in my experience.

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Old 10-13-2005, 03:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Whoops, sorry for the double post up above - don't know how that happened.

My protein:carb ratio on that drink mentioned is about 2:1. In case you were wondering. But again, that time of day I need those fast-acting carbs to recover from the nightly fast.

Good luck and let us know what you try and what works.

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Usually protien and carbs. So a shake w/malto or dextrose or just protien w/milk and water and a banana.
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Alex, the S2B book suggests that no PWO shake is necessary after HIIT, only lifting workouts. I don't have the book with me here at the office but will look it up and post the reference when I get home.

Also, I don't think you're actually doing HIIT, as you've described it. From my understanding, your "work" intervals should be shorter (15 to 45 secs max) and much more intense than you're doing - almost all-out - and then a long recovery period (45 to 135 secs or more). The length of your work intervals will determine the number of sets you need to do, i.e. if you have short work intervals (15 secs), you can do more total sets (perhaps 8 to 10). If you have longer work intervals (say, 45 secs), then you will only be able to get in about 5 total sets before tiring out.
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K - after years of entrophy, I'm working my way into HITT/cardio work, or trying to at least ; ) I've looked at a bunch of the HITT stuff, and thought this might be a good way to segway into those types workouts. I will say this, I am dog tired after doing the cardio...

So for now then, I'm just going to stick with what I've been doing - which is a light lunch after cardio at work. I started this about 10 days ago, at 206.5 lbs, currently at 204. But the last mile here is belly fat, but if it works I'll be sure to pass it along.
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Alex, the S2B book suggests that no PWO shake is necessary after HIIT, only lifting workouts. I don't have the book with me here at the office but will look it up and post the reference when I get home.

Also, I don't think you're actually doing HIIT, as you've described it. From my understanding, your "work" intervals should be shorter (15 to 45 secs max) and much more intense than you're doing - almost all-out - and then a long recovery period (45 to 135 secs or more). The length of your work intervals will determine the number of sets you need to do, i.e. if you have short work intervals (15 secs), you can do more total sets (perhaps 8 to 10). If you have longer work intervals (say, 45 secs), then you will only be able to get in about 5 total sets before tiring out.
I asked Craig about having a shake after HIIT. He said I could continue with my 2c milk, water and whey. I would consider playing hockey a type of hiit. I go hard for 90 seconds then rest 90-180 seconds. I have 1/2 a large shake before and 1/2 after w 2scoops protien, 1 scoop dextrose, 2c milk and the rest water.

After reading S2B, TTfM and this article http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...ydra?id=781428 everyone has their take on bulking. Since we are just regular people I think we should just keep it simple.
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I eat a snack before training and I do my HIIT after weight training which I do after work. I'm so tired and hungry by then that if I wait to be home to eat something.. I'll eat anything fast and easy.

Lately I've found something that works for me.. In the car on my way home I have a Slim Down Nutritional supplement bar. 175 calories, 13 g protien, 4,5 g fat, 20 g carbs.

I don't know at all if this is good for me I'm completely new to anything except calorie-counting. But at least when I get home I have the courage to prepare something healty for the other half of my supper.

(same snack, training, bar and supper routine after my other workouts during the week)
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Alex, I said I'd get back to you with the S2B reference. The book discusses HIIT in some depth at pages 58-61. If you can get your hands on a copy, it's worth the read. As for the pwo issue, I know it's in there, I just can't find the reference. Grrr....! However, this is what Berardi said in the S2B sub-forum:



Originally posted by laxcdn:
Do you take a shake on days you do HIIT? Is HIIT considered a workout?

K-Court: No, Mike, my understanding is shakes only on lifting days - before, during, and after. Only water on HIIT days.

Berardi: That's right -- The book specifies this.

Check atop each menu...During phase 1 you have 3 training days and 4 non. This matches perfectly with the number of lifting days and non-lifting days. The same is true for each of the other phases.


So, obviously it's in there. Just can't find it, dammit!
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Appreciate the follow up K.
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