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Old 05-09-2005, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I haven't seen him in about two years. One of the first things he said to me is "You have been working out haven't you?" I said yes as much as possible. He told me to stop completely. (I have 5 hernatied disc in my back and a pinched nerve in my neck. I couldn't turn my head to the right at all this morning so that is why I went in the first place.) I told him that I talked to a surgeon and the surgeon told me to stay active as possible. The chiro said "active yes working out no" I tried to explain to him that working out and stretching are the only really things that make me feel better but he didn't really want to hear me out. So should I listen to him or should I keep doing what I am doing Ripped Rugged and Dense and chalk it up to a bad day? Let me know what you think. Thanks.
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You might want to take a break and get a second opinion. Your back sounds like its in pretty rough shape and you don't want to do any further damage. Your back is not something to mess around with.

BTW -- How could he tell you had 5 herniated disks? Did you have an MRI or x-ray recently.
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Yea you are probably right but it seems like I take a week of every 2-3 weeks. I posted a topic on here over the weekend about being one workout away from an injury and this is just what I am talking about. It sure as hell is frustrating!! I completed HGM and didn't have nearly as much trouble as I am having here lately. I just don't get it. I had an MRI done. That is how he knew about the disc.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Get a second MEDICAL opinion... NOT a chiro. They are not neurosurgeons, and are not qualified to tell anyone that they have a herniated disc.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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l go to another orthopedic doctor and get a second opinion. I took the chiro the MRI interpretation that shows the herniations. He didn't look at the MRI and tell me they were herniated. Sorry that wasn't clear in my initial post.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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JP is correct. All second opinions should come from a neurosurgeon. Many chiros are very intelligent and highly skilled but they have limitations (as well all do) as to what they are capable of diagnosing.

Now, that being said...

I have a gut feeling, so take this with a grain of salt.

If you're willing to attempt a 315 pound deadlift on a recurring basis, I'm wondering if some training modifications can't limit some of the discomfort you're dealing with.

First thing I would do is get the second opinion and determine whether surgery is a must. If not, I'm betting you have numerous soft-tissue issues that are causing a great deal of your pain (I'm thinking from the car accident...for all you know the herniations were always there and you never knew it). If the neurosurgeon doesn't think surgery is required, get a referral to the best manual therapist in town and get busy resolving those issues.

You'll also need to increase the volume of lower intensity exercise. The easiest way to do it is with a variation of circuit training using dynamic flexibility ex. and lighter complexes of common exercises (exercise selection depends on the soft-tissue issues at hand). You'll be amazed at how good it will make you feel.

Banging away at heavy weight is a fast track to pain. Progressively work up to peaks of activity and back off and repeat, but always maintain your base of GPP/dynamic flexibility.

I need more info on the "pinched nerve in the ball of my neck" comment. Is this an MRI diagnosed issue or a comment from the chiro? Also, can you be more specific as to what area you are referring to (I think I know but just want to be sure).

Are you doing prone extension exercises and stabilization exercises?

Let's move this back to the Injury forum.

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Old 05-09-2005, 09:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have 5 bulging discs at age 34 and was told if you MRI everyone around my age they will likely have some slight bulges, they just may not be in pain from them. Remember Chiros call themselves "Doctor" but they are not M.D's.
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