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Old 03-01-2008, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default What Have You Learned About Training? Post Your Advice

I was thinking it would be helpful for everyone to post ONE thing that they have learned over the years about training, nutrition, or anything else that has to do with the fitness world. It could be something beneficial, or not, or simply something that you have observed over the years while training. It could even be something as simple as an amusing individual you have seen in the gym. Brainstorm ,post, and we can learn, or laugh, from your post.

What I have Learned:

-I've learned that no matter what kind of workout some writes up for you, it will not produce the maximum gains unless you actually, at least somewhat, ENJOY what you are doing.
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ill guess I give my two cents(many things to get of my chest but i try keeping it brief)

Training and the effects on the human body are way more complex than you think.

Get fit to lift and not the other way around, work on mobility and other weak links. You will suffer other vise.

No matter what you do your body it will adapt, change things up. Great way in doing this is by following planned periodization try 3 weeks of pre-peak (5x5) ,than 3 weeks peak (3x3) and then 2 weeks of deload, prehab, let your body rest, you may try some less taxing bodybuilding like set and repetition ranges. (Just a quick summary this is a way more complex area)

Rest, you need rest, you cannot beat the shit out of your body continuously.

Injuries suck, treat them first don't ignore them.

This cant be summed up in a simple forum post, i actually wrote an article (hope my writing has improved) on a similar subject. Athlete Mistakes RawGrip.com
I'm just scratching the surface, looking forward to many more replies.
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Old 03-01-2008, 03:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The most important thing is the effort you put in. Program selection and methods mean just about nothing.
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I was thinking of some good geeky science stuff to put here, but I decided to just say that I learned how important it is to really like whatever exercise you are doing. For many people, it can be the difference between results that last and quitting
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have learned to trust only the trainers who are well known like Cressey and Robertson, and not just any trainer, any article, or any website like T-NATION for example. Not all the training articles are good and they may have incorrect information by some of the authors that post their articles on there. I have learned to be careful of who to trust and get information from and also be careful in giving advice to others based on where I have learned it, who I learned it from, and post a source if there is one. I basicially learned not to believe everything I read because that will get me in trouble, especially if I believe something that is incorrect. I have posted incorrect information in the past from authors/trainers I have read (at t-nation or other sites) and thought the information was correct.

My only advice I have for this thread (have to say only one like the thread says) is if you do not know who the trainer is or the author writing an article and if they are not well known, don't think the information is all correct just because they have a degree. Just because they have a degree in something, does not mean they may know their stuff and the information (maybe not all, but can be some or most) may be incorrect. Just becareful who you trust.
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Days when you don't feel like going to the gym...go anyway. Usually once there, you'll do your workout.
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I was thinking of some good geeky science stuff to put here, but I decided to just say that I learned how important it is to really like whatever exercise you are doing. For many people, it can be the difference between results that last and quitting
Once you are past the point of worrying about quitting.. the things that you hate the most are also probably the best for you
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have learned to trust only the trainers who are well known like Cressey and Robertson, and not just any trainer, any article, or any website like T-NATION for example. Not all the training articles are good and they may have incorrect information by some of the authors that post their articles on there. I have learned to be careful of who to trust and get information from and also be careful in giving advice to others based on where I have learned it, who I learned it from, and post a source if there is one. I basicially learned not to believe everything I read because that will get me in trouble, especially if I believe something that is incorrect. I have posted incorrect information in the past from authors/trainers I have read (at t-nation or other sites) and thought the information was correct.

My only advice I have for this thread (have to say only one like the thread says) is if you do not know who the trainer is or the author writing an article and if they are not well known, don't think the information is all correct just because they have a degree. Just because they have a degree in something, does not mean they may know their stuff and the information (maybe not all, but can be some or most) may be incorrect. Just becareful who you trust.
I agree with this statement. Even a great deal of trainers for professional athletes know NOTHING about training principles, or sport specific training. They put these athletes on programs, the professional athletes make gains because of their genetic makeup DESPITE the terrible training, and they are glorified.
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Consistency.
The workout you are doing is worth nothing if you are not doing the workout.

Less and More.
Less time spent in the gym with more intensity works better than more time with less intensity.

There are three parts to a lift.
The Concentric.
The Eccentric.
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The Egocentric.
Concen with the third one will always produce a poor workout.
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Old 03-02-2008, 03:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You never know as much as you think you do.
Good way of summing up how i feel in a short sentence. Good to hear others alike.
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Old 03-02-2008, 04:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You can't just guess if you are getting the number of calories you need each day. Spend 2 weeks calculating each day's fat/proteins/carbs, then after that you can now reasonably estimate how much you have eaten each day.
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Old 03-02-2008, 05:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
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If you want to gain size and you don't squat and deadlift with great intensity, you won't get what you want. And, you have to eat way more than you think for that goal as well.
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Old 03-02-2008, 05:57 AM   #18 (permalink)
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