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02-18-2008, 08:39 PM
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Low back sore during/after deadlifts
I've noticed that as I have increased the weight on my deadlift that my low back gets sore during and after the exercise (sometimes for just a few minutes or sometimes for several hours after). Without seeing a video of my DL form, would you first expect poor form as the culprit? What other factors might contribute?
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02-18-2008, 08:45 PM
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um...pretty sure thats the point.
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02-18-2008, 09:20 PM
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um...pretty sure thats the point.
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It's not sore in a good way, if that's what you're getting at; I've experienced that before and I know the difference. This is sore in a "I'm one more rep away from an injury" sore.
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The reason you don't have big arms is because you're weaker than a baby's fart, not because you don't do enough arm curls. -- Tony Gentilcore, via thefitcast.com
[Your] biceps [comprise] just 3 percent of the amount of muscle mass in your entire body. Remember that number: It's a good way to keep a perspective on how much you train your biceps compared with your other muscle groups. -- from menshealth.com
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02-18-2008, 09:22 PM
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Are you rounding your back? If so, that's a no no, weight is too heavy, and bad form.
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02-18-2008, 09:24 PM
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If its sore in a hurty way, then I would assume its a form issue which may be because your lifting more than you should be.
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02-19-2008, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mon
Are you rounding your back? If so, that's a no no, weight is too heavy, and bad form.
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I don't think I'm rounding my back. In my head I try to think of everything I've read about proper DL form and I "think" I'm doing it right, but it's so easy to be wrong about this stuff. I guess I probably need to record myself and review it to be sure.
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The reason you don't have big arms is because you're weaker than a baby's fart, not because you don't do enough arm curls. -- Tony Gentilcore, via thefitcast.com
[Your] biceps [comprise] just 3 percent of the amount of muscle mass in your entire body. Remember that number: It's a good way to keep a perspective on how much you train your biceps compared with your other muscle groups. -- from menshealth.com
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02-19-2008, 06:24 AM
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I have had a similar issue. I always concentrated on keeping form and thought I was.
My solution....I begged and pleaded for my wife to use her new phone and take a 15 second video of my deadlifts.
And yes, against all my expectations, I was rounding my back and "hunching" my shoulders forward. So I dropped the weight, bought a mirror, and am working on my problem.
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02-19-2008, 07:36 AM
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I concur that it's more than likely a form issue. However, oftentimes, when I am working with a new client and I ask them "where do you feel this most" and they respond with "my lower back," a simple cue I use with them is to "brace your abdominals." Belly full of air and brace. This usually makes it MUCH more comfortable for them or at the very least takes a lot of the burden off of the lower back.
Also, another simple cue I use is to pretend that each rep is it's own set. Ie: when you complete a full rep and return back to the floor, rather than hoist the weight back up immediately; reset yourself. Get your arch back, make sure your chest is up, butt down, chin tucked and get your air back (brace). A lot of people tend to "rush" their sets and hence that is why their form tends to falter.
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02-19-2008, 07:51 AM
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This sounds goofy, but I was having back pain from the start of my DL's. Part of the issue was just in how I was picking up the bar/weights to start my lift. I was almost injuring myself to start the lift.
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02-19-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kaydubya
I don't think I'm rounding my back. In my head I try to think of everything I've read about proper DL form and I "think" I'm doing it right, but it's so easy to be wrong about this stuff. I guess I probably need to record myself and review it to be sure.
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Are there people at your gym or the person that works there know the deadlift form? At my gym at school I ask to see how my form is to make sure I am doing it right, especially the RDL. Last Thursday, too much weight made my RDL turn into a deadlift and I was feeling it all in my lower back instead of my hamstrings. I was using 45 lb bar and then went down to a 35 lb bar and was able to do the RDL correctly.
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02-19-2008, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kaydubya
I've noticed that as I have increased the weight on my deadlift that my low back gets sore during and after the exercise (sometimes for just a few minutes or sometimes for several hours after). Without seeing a video of my DL form, would you first expect poor form as the culprit? What other factors might contribute?
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I had the same experience. I knew it wasn't the typical soreness that comes after a workout because that doesn't occur until I wake up the next morning. This pain came within an hour or two after doing the deadlifts, and intensified over the next couple days.
I dropped the weight a little bit and watched myself do the deadlifts in front of a mirror. It helped a lot, I'm back to the higher weight again, and I haven't had any problems.
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02-19-2008, 06:34 PM
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The more I've been thinking about this, and actually going through the DL motion but without the bar, I'm coming to realize that I probably am rounding my back. I won't be doing DLs again for a couple of days, but I'll keep all this in mind and check back with you guys afterwards.
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The reason you don't have big arms is because you're weaker than a baby's fart, not because you don't do enough arm curls. -- Tony Gentilcore, via thefitcast.com
[Your] biceps [comprise] just 3 percent of the amount of muscle mass in your entire body. Remember that number: It's a good way to keep a perspective on how much you train your biceps compared with your other muscle groups. -- from menshealth.com
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02-22-2008, 11:16 PM
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Did DLs again today. It went much better. I lowered the weight and really concentrated on my form. Out of all the advice, I think Tony's tip to brace the abs was the most helpful. Through 3 sets I was still getting a little uncomfortable tightness in my low back, so on the 4th set I really concentrated on bracing my abs and all soreness went away.
Thanks to all who chimed in with advice; it helped a lot!
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Originally Posted by Tony Gentilcore
I concur that it's more than likely a form issue. However, oftentimes, when I am working with a new client and I ask them "where do you feel this most" and they respond with "my lower back," a simple cue I use with them is to "brace your abdominals." Belly full of air and brace. This usually makes it MUCH more comfortable for them or at the very least takes a lot of the burden off of the lower back.
Also, another simple cue I use is to pretend that each rep is it's own set. Ie: when you complete a full rep and return back to the floor, rather than hoist the weight back up immediately; reset yourself. Get your arch back, make sure your chest is up, butt down, chin tucked and get your air back (brace). A lot of people tend to "rush" their sets and hence that is why their form tends to falter.
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The reason you don't have big arms is because you're weaker than a baby's fart, not because you don't do enough arm curls. -- Tony Gentilcore, via thefitcast.com
[Your] biceps [comprise] just 3 percent of the amount of muscle mass in your entire body. Remember that number: It's a good way to keep a perspective on how much you train your biceps compared with your other muscle groups. -- from menshealth.com
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