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Old 04-22-2004, 12:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was told by someone that certain exercises should not be done on the same workout, such as biceps and triceps. Are there exercises that should not be done on the same workout?

Also another question about protein and creatine. Between muscletech and eas which is better to buy. Or any other suggestions.
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Old 04-22-2004, 11:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've never heard of any exercises that can't be performed in the same workout. Working the biceps and triceps is actually promoted in many workouts where you're splitting based on complementary muscles, rather than complimentary ones.

As for supplements, I use some of the EAS stuff, but just because it's cheap...and so am I
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Old 04-22-2004, 01:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well what im going to do is do a five day split:

monday and thursday - chest, back and shoulders
tuesday and friday - biceps, triceps, and forearms
wednesdays - legs
every day abs and running/jumprope for about 30min to an hour.

would this be a good combination? or should i change it up?

"where you're splitting based on complementary muscles, rather than complimentary ones."
what is the difference between the two?
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Old 04-22-2004, 03:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you post your stats (age, weight, bodyfat) and goals (get lean, get big, run fast, lift heavy), I might be able to point you to a workout. I'm not a professional, and I'm not even impressive, but I read a lot

IMO, you're working your upper body four days a week and your lower one. That isn't very ideal for fatburning OR getting big. If it's just a piece of your overall plan (like if you just hit the lower body really hard for several weeks), I apologize.

Complementary muscles work in opposite directions on the same joint(s). For example, biceps and triceps pull the elbow joint in different directions. Other examples are chest/back and quadricep/hamstring.

Complimentary muscles work together during a lift. Chest/shoulders/triceps during an incline bench or dip would be an example. Hamstrings/glutes during a deadlift would be another.

I've done workouts that have splits of chest/shoulders/triceps one day and back/biceps another day, which is a complimentary split. Your workout is chest/back and triceps/biceps, or complementary. Either is fine as part of a well-rounded program.

I've given up (for now) trying to outthink the smartest guys in the field. For the past six months, I've been doing professionally designed ones. I haven't done a tricep/bicep exercise in at least five months. Results? My arms are 3/4" bigger...and I'm DIETING/CUTTING! Another interesting note: I hadn't flat benched in three months until Phase 3 of Homegrown. Results? Probably a new personal best - I know for sure that my 5RM is a record. Weird? Yeah. Normal? I think so. These guys (all around this forum, their magazines, etc.) are smarter than you and I. I'm at least a year from designing my own program, and I plan to ask for help even then.

Get some stats and goals down, if you want, and I'll try to help more. If you're a pro and I'm talking down to you, I'm sorry. It's hard to tell in a forum
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Old 04-27-2004, 02:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks I really need some help in trying to meet my goals. Right now i dont have the info on my body fat but will have that by the end of the week.
I can tell you that my goals are to lose my body fat and increase my strength as well as getting cut.

I've been having a problem w/my running. I dont know if its the shoes or maybe my form but my shins are killing me.. I wake up at 6am go to the track, stretch, and by the end of my 2nd mile im hurting. any advise or suggestions that can help me?
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