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Old 05-04-2005, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ohhhh no... you had to go and dig that up. That's from JP's dark days of disillusionment -- he's been trying to squash it, and has been quite successful, I must say.

Newlife, if you mysteriously disappear from the boards... it was nice knowing you. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I was thinking that might be JP, but didn't want to open my big mouth. Opps....
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, that looks effective.
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And Newlife? Who's that? Never heard of him!
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Brady Anderson of the Orioles used to be able to do that too. But I thought that was just a superstar rumor. Holy crap JP!
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was that before he fell and broke his hip with 135 on his back?
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(Used Jedi mind trick):

~~Look away, you don't want this thread, you didn't see that picture. You want to go to off topic and look at mesha and becka. Swiss balls are only meant for very short games of dodgeball.~~

Just trying to protect you guys.
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If you wanna read something funny go search for the swiss ball squat thread at T-mag
(ducks as JP swings one of his prize guitars at my head)

Newlife, now you'd really be in trouble if you photoshopped a manbag into that pic...
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Old 05-04-2005, 02:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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oh kuri you just made it worse

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Old 05-04-2005, 03:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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oh boy...

Just to clarify in case some folks don't know: A couple years ago, JP was heavily into Swiss ball stuff, and he posted the above picture on t-mag's forum. The thread turned into a very lengthy argument, with a lot of the t-mag forum crew bashing JP quite a bit. Ultimately, JP did a lot of research and decided that a lot of his Swiss ball exercises (including the one in the photo) were not effective, and he moved on to better methods.

In my opinion, his ability to do the research, admit that he was wrong, and evolve his training methods took a lot of guts and intelligence.

And, on a side note, I think doing weighted squats on a ball--while probably dangerous and not useful--is a very impressive trick.

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oh boy...

Just to clarify in case some folks don't know: A couple years ago, JP was heavily into Swiss ball stuff, and he posted the above picture on t-mag's forum. The thread turned into a very lengthy argument, with a lot of the t-mag forum crew bashing JP quite a bit. Ultimately, JP did a lot of research and decided that a lot of his Swiss ball exercises (including the one in the photo) were not effective, and he moved on to better methods.

In my opinion, his ability to do the research, admit that he was wrong, and evolve his training methods took a lot of guts and intelligence.

And, on a side note, I think doing weighted squats on a ball--while probably dangerous and not useful--is a very impressive trick.

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Wow, good to know the history about it. I did a search on t-mag and did find the posts, but the pics were gone. I seriously had no clue the pic was of JP. While I would have still laughed, it would have been to myself.

JP-Sorry to dig up the past! I had no idea you were involved in swissball movements and I am glad you have moved to compound movements.

I think Jake said it best.
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OK, Newlife, you can take your tail out from between your legs now ...
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And you thought JP only had French balls!
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Just to assure everyone I am not the new TS I agree that JP handled the whole matter well.

And it still is an impressive display of balance!
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey, everybody makes mistakes and has error in judgement at times. I don't think anyone here is even making fun of JP anyways. That does look damn hard, it looks like a good way to take a bite out of a big dirt sammich is you ask me, I'd bust my ass trying that. We all do really dumb stuff at times when it comes to lifting, I remember the days of curling in the squat rack, yep I was once "that guy". Who cares though, life goes on, thats why I don't come down on anyone doing something foolish in the gym most of the time because they probably just weren't taught better or haven't developed their understanding fully of what they're doing. The more you know the more you know of what you don't know....uhhhhh...yeah...or something.
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sorry JP. I can't resist.

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Old 05-04-2005, 06:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I cant see the picture
Weird. They work fine for me.

Did you click on the links?
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Old 05-04-2005, 07:07 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Nothing beats Davies' "135" swiss ball power clean. Damn Im glad that swiss ball craze is over.

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You're all doomed!

BTW, how in the hell did you guys find all that shit? I tried to do a search a long time ago to delete those old posts, but wasn't able to find them.
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You will have to tell the newbies about...

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can someone post the links, I dont even see a link
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Sorry JP but I've got to paste this classic Hartman Top Ten Thanks Axis!

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Top 10 Reasons to use a swiss ball more that some other training means:
1. They're fun at the beach
2. They're great for inversion games with kids (kids love to be upside-down)
3. They come in some pretty colors and dress up a gym nicely
4. There are some rehab exercises that they are good for (in my therapy practice I use a swiss ball about once every 3 or 4 months)
5. They may improve exercise compliance for those who are more attracted to gimmicks and gadgets rather than strong program design.
6. They can reduce strength and power output in those athletes who no longer desire to get stronger or more powerful.
7. Handy for supported lateral flexion stretching
8. You couldn't spring for a decent bench cause you only had $55 to spare.
9. You job requires that you perform activities on a swiss ball
10. You want to earn more money by marketing swiss ball training videos to your clients and unsuspecting trainers who are hungry to keep up with the "latest" technology in the training realm. (By the way, I own several tapes myself...don't use 'em but I own em)
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Quote:
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You're all doomed!

BTW, how in the hell did you guys find all that shit? I tried to do a search a long time ago to delete those old posts, but wasn't able to find them.
I was kinda hoping you were on vacation or something and would have missed this post. I was over on Rugged and found it under the Phote section. Then, I went to t-nation and saw a bunch of posts and your JPFitness name linked to them. I had already posted the pic when I found out it was you, so I wasn't trying to be a dick, just thought it was too funny. I pictured this guy getting 3/4 through a squat a falling off the ball. Damn that looks scary...
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NL,
stupid as it was, it was actually pretty easy for me. I guess I just have really good balance. I never felt uncomfortable doing some of that crazy shit on a ball.
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Another swiss ball innovator
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One of the trainers at our gym used to do them....funny....haven't seen him in a while....


Now boys...promise me, no one tell Bipennate swiss balls aren't cool - he uses them for everything!!!
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Hilarious link, Axis.
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Now boys...promise me, no one tell Bipennate swiss balls aren't cool - he uses them for everything!!!
Yeah, well, I can stand on the stability ball, but I wouldn't even think of doing that back squat stuff: even I'm not that crazy!!!
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