Anybody heard of the guy or tried any of his programs?I was looking over some of the stuff he has been preaching about and it looks ok however would like to get other peoples opinions about it if possible?
I also thinking of buying Ross Enamaits dvd called full throttle conditioning which looks good and at the moment i am really getting into using more bodyweight exercises especailly push up variations.
If you guys could let me know what you think of the above that would be great.
His CC seems to be pretty decently reviewed. That said the guy seems creepy and weird. Do a google to find his website and look at what he's selling...such as "kung fu poop" and "kung fu sex". People that sell material on how to poo are creepy, I don't care who they are. His picture page has such gyms as "Me at a bus stop in China" and "Me eating watermellon in China". Video's include why it's stupid to use a knife to cut eggs. And so on and so forth. He may be a great guy, he just doesn't seem to be striving for credibility.
Ross puts out good material. I reviewed FTC and II (blog). You might also check "The Conditioning Handbook"
I've heard the name, but I can't offer an opinion as I can't recall ever seeing one of his products.
I'm pretty impressed with Ross Enamait's stuff though. You can't go wrong from what I've seen.
Have you made it down to the Martial Arts forum yet?
Yeah the matt furey stuff i am not too sure about but ross stuff i am gonna buy anyway as i really trust the guy as i get good results from all his articles.
I havent made it down there yet however i shall take a look thanks alot JP.
His CC seems to be pretty decently reviewed. That said the guy seems creepy and weird. Do a google to find his website and look at what he's selling...such as "kung fu poop" and "kung fu sex". People that sell material on how to poo are creepy, I don't care who they are. His picture page has such gyms as "Me at a bus stop in China" and "Me eating watermellon in China". Video's include why it's stupid to use a knife to cut eggs. And so on and so forth. He may be a great guy, he just doesn't seem to be striving for credibility.
Ross puts out good material. I reviewed FTC and II (blog). You might also check "The Conditioning Handbook"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that poop thing is really disturbing actually especailly because he hasnt bothered to give it a catchy name is just called it "How to take a crap".
I dunno what to make of him he is somewhat insane i think but i will see if i can get his dvd pretty cheap on ebay and see what its like,if its not good i will give it to someone else.
In simple terms, buy the products by Ross, skip the Matt Furey stuff altogether.
That guy is a rip-off and spammer. I will not watch any of his DVDs or read any of his books even if they were available for free. About the only use I have for his books is if I ever run out of wood for my fireplace in winter.
Not that we don't want the unfiltered truth in here, but calling someone a spammer and a rip-off when he's not here to defend himself feels creepy inside, like how one would feel after accusing a deceased person of some crime.
Have you ever watched any of his stuff, B&B?
Mind you, I'm not defending him either. I have no idea who he is. I'm just probing to get some more objective statement out of you.
Adding to JP's comment (and waxing philosophical)...
Whether it's Ross Enamait, Matt Furey, Alwyn Cosgrove or anyone else (myself included), when you boil it down, all any of us in this biz are really saying is eat right and exercise.
That's all there is to it. Sure, there's some differences in the interpretation and implementation of this basic advice, but seriously, how complicated does fitness really have to be?
As far as I'm concerned, the real value any coach/writer/'expert' can provide is in their ability to connect with their target market and give them 'eat right/exercise' in terms that they can understand.
Some do that by adding "kung fu" as a prefix to those biological functions we tend to take for granted.
Others are able to connect by "sweating to the oldies", "stopping the insanity", training with a "gazelle" or explaining the "new rules"
...and they're ALL right.
The 'trick' to fitness breakthoughs is often as simple as doing something DIFFERENT than you're used to. (hit a plateua in NROL? Try the gazelle for a few weeks!)
Unless the information is downright dangerous, who cares if Matt Furey is against using a knife to cut eggs? (I have no idea what that means, either!)
Anyway, I'm pretty sure I started writing this message with a specific point in mind, but I'll leave that one for you to figure out.
JP, thank you for giving me the opportunity to defend myself.
I was introduced to Matt Furey's products on the spring of '02 by an associate. Back then, Matt was already quite well known in the field for his bodyweight movements. I bought both combat abs and combat conditioning as a result of his association with Brooks Kubik, the author of the famed book - Dinosaur Training. At the time of purchase, I was invited to join his mailing list which I did.
I was nursing a knee injury at the time and was backing off from heavy squats and deadlift so his bodyweight training routine seemed like a perfect conduit for me to get some form of conditioning. I can't remember how much I paid for his books but it was certainly not cheap and I had high hopes for the books, based on what was promised on his website. Imagine the horror when I learnt upon receiving the books that those were simple movements that my 5 year old nephew would know. To add insult to that, there were no scientific backgrounds or explanations other than the author's own experience. Turns out his training was a series of hindu squats, dive bombers, bridges and his advise was for you to try to hit 500 reps on the squats and the other exercises. I wrote to him saying that the hindu squats was hurting my knees when I bent my knees forward in that manner and his reply was for me to work through the pain threshold and in the weeks ahead, it got worse. I wrote to him twice again and there was no reply after that. At the same time, the mailing list which I signed up for was flooding my mailbox daily. My attempt to unsubscribe was futile and when I finally did, I found that he was sending spam out again from another email address. And I had to go through the cycle of unsubscribing the damn thing again.
I finally got better when I stopped the high rep bodyweight training and started a more controlled form of mobility drills influenced by the teachings of Gray Cook. (That is why I am very pleased to this day with the Monster Mobility package from EC, MR, and BH.) My trainer back then was adamant that the high rep squats and bridges was the malaise of many of his clients problems as they aggravated the imbalances that already assisted. Mr Furey continued to promote his staple routine of bodyweight training as a form of cure all ailments in an attempt to sell his products. There has been many discussions over the internet about the so-called "Matt Furey Scam" where he tries to sell expensive products that he claims miraculously helps to lose fats, fight fatigue, eliminate pain etc. His background was also dubious with some claiming that he was actually thrown out of the famous wrestling school but to which he still claims attachment to the insitution in his marketing ploys. I've been to China for business many times and I can only laugh at the things he said he picked up from "masters" in China. When he realized that he has somewhat exhausted his credibility in the fighter's and fitness circle, he moved to target the regular day-to day people without any fitness knowledge by tying up with several internet mail order companies. This is a sad case of smart copywriting but without a good product to match. I do not think I am the only one calling him a con-artist. I will leave you a video where you can see the moves in his books and videos being performed.
To this day, Matt Furey continues to blast weight training because he injured himself in his early years training with weights. Some say he actually looked alot better back then when he was still lifting dumbbells. He is now totally not training with any form of free weights anymore.
My experience with Ross was the complete opposite. His programs while challenging, are logically laid out and he is always quick to respond to his emails to help you. His products are great value for money and beneficial to all who follows them.
JP, thank you for giving me the opportunity to defend myself.
I was introduced to Matt Furey's products on the spring of '02 by an associate. Back then, Matt was already quite well known in the field for his bodyweight movements. I bought both combat abs and combat conditioning as a result of his association with Brooks Kubik, the author of the famed book - Dinosaur Training. At the time of purchase, I was invited to join his mailing list which I did.
I was nursing a knee injury at the time and was backing off from heavy squats and deadlift so his bodyweight training routine seemed like a perfect conduit for me to get some form of conditioning. I can't remember how much I paid for his books but it was certainly not cheap and I had high hopes for the books, based on what was promised on his website. Imagine the horror when I learnt upon receiving the books that those were simple movements that my 5 year old nephew would know. To add insult to that, there were no scientific backgrounds or explanations other than the author's own experience. Turns out his training was a series of hindu squats, dive bombers, bridges and his advise was for you to try to hit 500 reps on the squats and the other exercises. I wrote to him saying that the hindu squats was hurting my knees when I bent my knees forward in that manner and his reply was for me to work through the pain threshold and in the weeks ahead, it got worse. I wrote to him twice again and there was no reply after that. At the same time, the mailing list which I signed up for was flooding my mailbox daily. My attempt to unsubscribe was futile and when I finally did, I found that he was sending spam out again from another email address. And I had to go through the cycle of unsubscribing the damn thing again.
I finally got better when I stopped the high rep bodyweight training and started a more controlled form of mobility drills influenced by the teachings of Gray Cook. (That is why I am very pleased to this day with the Monster Mobility package from EC, MR, and BH.) My trainer back then was adamant that the high rep squats and bridges was the malaise of many of his clients problems as they aggravated the imbalances that already assisted. Mr Furey continued to promote his staple routine of bodyweight training as a form of cure all ailments in an attempt to sell his products. There has been many discussions over the internet about the so-called "Matt Furey Scam" where he tries to sell expensive products that he claims miraculously helps to lose fats, fight fatigue, eliminate pain etc. His background was also dubious with some claiming that he was actually thrown out of the famous wrestling school but to which he still claims attachment to the insitution in his marketing ploys. I've been to China for business many times and I can only laugh at the things he said he picked up from "masters" in China. When he realized that he has somewhat exhausted his credibility in the fighter's and fitness circle, he moved to target the regular day-to day people without any fitness knowledge by tying up with several internet mail order companies. This is a sad case of smart copywriting but without a good product to match. I do not think I am the only one calling him a con-artist. I will leave you a video where you can see the moves in his books and videos being performed.
To this day, Matt Furey continues to blast weight training because he injured himself in his early years training with weights. Some say he actually looked alot better back then when he was still lifting dumbbells. He is now totally not training with any form of free weights anymore.
My experience with Ross was the complete opposite. His programs while challenging, are logically laid out and he is always quick to respond to his emails to help you. His products are great value for money and beneficial to all who follows them.
Good reply bull&bear some good info on the author.
Well some of his exercises seem strange to some. But i myself do the Hindu Squats and the Hindu Push ups and let me tell you they are no joke. I have personally seen results so before judging you need to try it yourself.
Well some of his exercises seem strange to some. But i myself do the Hindu Squats and the Hindu Push ups and let me tell you they are no joke. I have personally seen results so before judging you need to try it yourself.