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Old 10-16-2007, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to incorporate sprints?

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Im doing Defrancos westside for skinny bastards program for last 6 weeks an tis great but want to incorporate some sprints 1x maybe 2x a week to minimise fat gain. First things first would it be overtraing? Lifting 4 x times a week 2 ME days 2 reps days. Secondly if it wouldnt when should i do it? My week is currently structured like this
Mon - ME Bench
tues - ME Squat/Deadlift
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Fri - reps lower body
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've been doing NROL Strength which is based on a 4 day lifting program. Monday-Squats, Tuesday-Bench, Thursday-Deads, Friday-Pull-ups, etc. I do HIIT on Wed. and Sat. and have seen good results.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just to set the stage, there's really no way to minimize fat gain at any given time by adding in any exercise while you are eating at a surplus.

Over a week, say, it may be possible. But, over that week, you minimize the fat gain via exercise and a short period of time in a caloric deficit. The fat gain "minimized" is really fat that was lost during that short period of the deficit. It's a little cycle you got going.

That being said, sprinting isn't a method of exercise that's going to burn a lot of fat while you are doing it. It generates EPOC that will help put you into a deficit that may burn off some fat. But, now that you've sprinted and need to let the EPOC do it's thing, you need to go for quite some time without all that food that you need to get yourself "unskinny." That's detrimental to that goal. The unskinnying one.

You may have some luck cycling calorie levels and doing some cardio or sprinting on the days when you can put yourself into a deficit, but it's tricky. After a workout, you gotta eat. The day after the workout (to continue to unskinny yourself), you gotta eat. With four days, you've got little time left for that brief deficit.

Thursday morning (assuming a PM lifting session) might be good for eating light and cardioing somehow. Assuming rest on Sat, you could sprint Sunday and eat lighter until close to your ME work that afternoon/evening. But, now you've sprinted pretty close to your ME work. That's three CNS intensive days in a row.

You could also eat less and just find the sweet spot to minimize fat gains. Maybe a little lower calorie-wise and cardio on Sunday or Monday and then Thursday mornings.
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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doesn't WSSB 3 pretty much spell that out?
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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what type of sprints? acceleration runs vs flys have a dramatically different effect on what can be done in terms of volumes and rest periods. Then we have short hill sprints of 5-10 meters vs flat surfaces. Then we have grass vs track vs turf.

On paper workouts look great but they can't be bland.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Please clarify and give examples? Do you classify an "acceleration run" a temp run or more of a flat out sprint? What distances are you referring to? Lastly, I've done speed work on an all-weather track and "Field Turf" surface. The FT feel softer, but I found no difference as far as perceived exertion or HR.

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Old 10-17-2007, 11:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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acceleration run is from 0 speed (still start) or slow sleep and build up speed. Most are 10-60m and are more quad dominant.

flys are anything from 10m-50m and require a controlled run up to get to top speed and hold it for that zone. This is more posterior chain.

Again this is sprinting so the HR response is as useful as a one legged man in an asskicking contest. Speed!
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for clarifying. I use HR to measure recovery for next sprint. Maybe I misread the topic, but I thought it was about conditioning and not knee or hip dominant exercises.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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When people are doing sprints for any reason their are risks involved. Even if you are doing them for fat loss or conditioning the limiting factors are not fat storage or cardiac responses but joint and muscle system issues.
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