[Vanessa] Minnillo says that she and Nick [Lachey], who in April moved in together in New York, work out together with a trainer to keep fit and healthy. "I do a lot of reps," she says. "I don't want to bulk up."
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My favorite one was in some celbrity magazine I was reading in line at CVS. It said how this famous guy(can't recall who) got his "killer body"(read:a skinny-fat 160) by eating 1300 cals a day, half of them coming from powerbars.
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My favorite one was in some celbrity magazine I was reading in line at CVS. It said how this famous guy(can't recall who) got his "killer body"(read:a skinny-fat 160) by eating 1300 cals a day, half of them coming from powerbars.
Ah... the Powerbar. Possibly the worst-tasting and worst-for-you energy bar I've ever had.
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Most girls just want to loose weight.. if you look at half the people with that goal on this site, they are using some sort of high rep fat loss workout. There is misinformation everywhere.
You can't fix "stupid" and apparently you can't change "misinformation."
And anyone stupid enough to look in People magazine for weight loss and workout advice is going to get exactly what they deserve.
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And anyone stupid enough to look in People magazine for weight loss and workout advice is going to get exactly what they deserve.
Bill, my concern isn't that people look for it. It's that they read the magazine, and see that Vanessa Minello has a great body. Then they read that she does a high rep workout, and think, "well if it works for Vanessa, I should do that too." That's how this sort of shit stays mainstream.
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Totally agree with you, Chris. Crappy info keeps getting perpetuated. Who knows -- maybe Minnillo's trainer even believes that stuff and that's why she's saying it.
Sorry if my acerbic sense of humor is getting in the way. If a reader follows that line of thinking ("if it works for Vanessa, I should do that, too"), I'd want to ask them why they're relying on what a celebrity says instead of learning what really works.
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Most girls just want to loose weight.. if you look at half the people with that goal on this site, they are using some sort of high rep fat loss workout. There is misinformation everywhere.
On paper, fat loss is devastatingly simple. The difficulty comes in with the implementation: it's a matter of willpower.
Marketing, on the other hand, makes money by confusing people. Simple doesn't sell.
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Most girls just want to loose weight.. if you look at half the people with that goal on this site, they are using some sort of high rep fat loss workout. There is misinformation everywhere.
On this site? Who?
It's been a while, but it seems like people get pointed in the right direction when that happens around here.
I recently got certified with one of the incredibly stupid fitness bodies here (actually the only one), and the trainer spent ages going through the >20reps for fat loss. We were given a table which showed that
strength 1-5reps
hypertrophy 8-12reps
"tone up" 15reps
lose weight >20reps (the actual term was loose weight)
Power 50reps
"Machines are the best things as most peoples stabilizers aren't strong enough to use free weights".
I feel sorry for all the trainers and clients of these trainers that are forced into this crap by those that they believe know the answers.
I recently got certified with one of the incredibly stupid fitness bodies here (actually the only one), and the trainer spent ages going through the >20reps for fat loss. We were given a table which showed that
strength 1-5reps
hypertrophy 8-12reps
"tone up" 15reps
lose weight >20reps (the actual term was loose weight)
Power 50reps
"Machines are the best things as most peoples stabilizers aren't strong enough to use free weights".
I feel sorry for all the trainers and clients of these trainers that are forced into this crap by those that they believe know the answers.
Josh, did you say anything? I would not have been able to bite my tongue. Silly Australian beefcakes!
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I think it's a great idea. Do lots of reps, eat very little (and then throw it up), get married to a rock star (and divorced again in a coupla months), pose in playboy to boost your career (where they won't make you show anything and will photochop you to skinny-assed perfection), use bjs to get the role of your dreams, then become "ugly" for a movie to get yerself an Oscar.
What's not to love about that plan? We should all live our lives like a celeb.
I wish I could find the link, but I saw a workout routine (with A and B days) just for abs, purportedly designed by someone with CSCS after their name.
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First off, some high rep work is good. NROL has it scattered throughout. It's just a piece of a normal periodization program. As far as the Nick guy goes he looks like he has a good body, but an old GF of mine used to watch that show with him and the simpson girl. They showed him lifting at the gym one day and he could barely press weight that I warm up with. Genetics are an amazing thing not just for strength but looks too haha...
As far as bad info, after looking around my office it would be a step in the right direction for most here to do anything, even if it wasn't perfect. If someone wants to do 12s or not go the gym at all, I'm going to have them do 12s but make sure the weight stays challenging. I think most people associate high reps with light weight thus easier to complete but that's another discussion...
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Fat loss in general is a great topic.
-We've got a marathoner that swears by adkins. He's slim, bikes\runs\lifts...loves the adkins. He gets everyone else to do it...it doesn't work (well) for other people...what the hell?! They're obviously eating carbs...that's the only way! Orrrrrrrrr in stead of exercising for 2 hours a day they're spending that time eating bacon wrapped cheese.
I think it's a great idea. Do lots of reps, eat very little (and then throw it up), get married to a rock star (and divorced again in a coupla months), pose in playboy to boost your career (where they won't make you show anything and will photochop you to skinny-assed perfection), use bjs to get the role of your dreams, then become "ugly" for a movie to get yerself an Oscar.
What's not to love about that plan? We should all live our lives like a celeb.
Haha!!
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Fat loss in general is a great topic.
-We've got a marathoner that swears by adkins. He's slim, bikes\runs\lifts...loves the adkins. He gets everyone else to do it...it doesn't work (well) for other people...what the hell?! They're obviously eating carbs...that's the only way! Orrrrrrrrr in stead of exercising for 2 hours a day they're spending that time eating bacon wrapped cheese.
Context...it's all about context.
^^ tru dat.
Although a lot of the misinformation comes from the fact that in general what works for one person may not work for another (it gets blown up though by people cashing in on the quick fixes etc).
There are just some people genetically inclined to look certain ways. Their training has nothing to do with it. But other people assume that since training must yield results, therefore the training the genetically gifted do must be the source of their appearance.
It's a false conclusion. The reality of the situation is that you're not going to make your body look like anything other than what it wants to look like.
I've said before that everybody has the potential to look phenomenal, relative to their own starting point. Just that my phenomenal won't be anybody elses, so trying to look like Arnold or whoever else isn't going to happen.
People start focusing on ideals instead of realistic outcomes, which is too bad because even the realistic outcome will be enough for most people.
The simple fact is, you improve by losing bodyfat and maintaining or improving your musculature. Your results will depend on what degree you do these things, and any "shaping" or "sculpting" you do is dependent on this as well.
Women especially get tangled up in this mentality of "toning" or whatever, when in reality, they're just doing the same thing: Maintaining or improving muscle while dropping bodyfat. I've yet to see any woman go on a balanced strength training regimen, the same I'd give any man, and not see great results from it with a proper diet in place.
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I think it's a great idea. Do lots of reps, eat very little (and then throw it up), get married to a rock star (and divorced again in a coupla months), pose in playboy to boost your career (where they won't make you show anything and will photochop you to skinny-assed perfection), use bjs to get the role of your dreams, then become "ugly" for a movie to get yerself an Oscar.
What's not to love about that plan? We should all live our lives like a celeb.
"i'm on this new diet, where i eat nothing, and if i start to get light headed, i eat a cube of cheese"
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There are just some people genetically inclined to look certain ways. Their training has nothing to do with it. But other people assume that since training must yield results, therefore the training the genetically gifted do must be the source of their appearance.
It's a false conclusion. The reality of the situation is that you're not going to make your body look like anything other than what it wants to look like.
I've said before that everybody has the potential to look phenomenal, relative to their own starting point. Just that my phenomenal won't be anybody elses, so trying to look like Arnold or whoever else isn't going to happen.
People start focusing on ideals instead of realistic outcomes, which is too bad because even the realistic outcome will be enough for most people.
The simple fact is, you improve by losing bodyfat and maintaining or improving your musculature. Your results will depend on what degree you do these things, and any "shaping" or "sculpting" you do is dependent on this as well.
Women especially get tangled up in this mentality of "toning" or whatever, when in reality, they're just doing the same thing: Maintaining or improving muscle while dropping bodyfat. I've yet to see any woman go on a balanced strength training regimen, the same I'd give any man, and not see great results from it with a proper diet in place.
Matt, you've just written the perfect endorsement for NROL for Women.
Early in the book I go on a rant about the three dirtiest words women use when they talk about training: "toning," "shaping," and "sculpting."
The first implies that muscles that haven't yet been built can somehow be "toned" with light weights and high reps.
The second implies that a person's physique has no genetic predisposition -- you can "shape" this or that to look like something your genes won't allow. The worst extension of this idea is that you can make your body look like your favorite celebrity's if you do that person's workout.
The third is okay, since it implies what you just said -- less fat, more muscle. But it's often used the way "toning" is used, implying that muscles can be "sculpted" before they've been built.
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