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Old 08-12-2007, 11:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Girevoy (kettlebell) Sport

I've recently become fascinated by Girevoy sport and it's application to developing strength endurance. One aspect that appears unique is the concept of relaxation (so-called "fluid style" of lifting) in conjunction with power and endurance - something that might be useful for sports that require repeated bursts of power with endurance.



I've read that Steve Cotter (in the video ) has worked with UFC champ Randy Couture, some Brazilian JiuJitsu champs, and Navy SEALs in applying girevoy sport principles to their respective needs.

Recently I started doing some timed sets of snatches and clean & jerks, ex. 5 minutes of snatches without putting the bell down - and damn is that tough.

Check out the relaxed technique Valery Fedorenko uses in doing 188 snatches with a 53 lb bell:


Has anyone here looked into this type of Kbell lifting?
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My interest in it was piqued when I met Steve Cotter last year and saw him do things that shouldn't have even been possible for a human body. I don't know if it is a sport for the injured from head to toe crowd like me, but if I weren't so banged up at the moment I would love to try it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I use it with some clients, they fun and do challenge the body with some movements that cant be done as well with a dumbbell.

I dont think they are the end all be all of training as many KB junkies feel.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Cotter and others in that sphere are the first to admit KBs are not the best tools for max strength or hypertrophy, and state quite clearly that is not the purpose of girevoy sport. A refreshing attitude to be sure.

JP, due to back issues I haven't DL'd or squatted heavy in months but feel good doing fairly heavy swings, jerks, and snatches with KBs. The thing about this style is that one strives for relaxation and there seems to be less pounding on the joints.

That said, with your shoulder issues I'd definitely consult with Hartman.

Oh, and Steve Cotter obviously has cyborg knees.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Steve is amazing. I truly love how his own body has changed over the last few years, have you noticed? He can do some insane stuff! I watch his videos for pure inspiration sometimes.
We use KBs with all clients that qualify and I use KBs with great pleasure. The KB gives you a sense of freedom that I love to experience. They are also very native to my country, my dad used to have them around the back yard when I was a kid.
Zach Evan-Esh had a great interview with Mike Roussell a few maxouts back about KB training, definitely worth listening to.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm not overly serious with it but I've been doing similar stuff as a form of HITT. Swings or snatches for time or reps are great. I do a circuit of 1 arm swings, clean and presses, f. squats, snatches, rows with a single KB and try to get through it quicker each time.

If you've only got 10 minutes or so of time to work with, continuous (and I'm using the term continuous loosely) snatches are great bang for your buck. I just wish my grip/calluses weren't so lame.

I also have chronic low back/si joint issues and it's been holding up really well since I added this kind of stuff. And TGUs seems to be helping w/ my bum shoulder as well!
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Galya, I love how you described the "sense of freedom" - I couldn't have put it so well.

Jax, I agree that kb work of this sort has been kind to my back, and I've been able to manage other lower body work by limiting spinal loading and doing more loaded single leg squats along with unilateral work.

Classic Cotter video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcvHaRaqJNo
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Good article by Cotter on performance based comparison of Kettlebell lifting methods
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That video of Cotter is insane! I've seem him do some amazing stuff...but the pistol onto the table is just sick!
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That video of Cotter is insane! I've seem him do some amazing stuff...but the pistol onto the table is just sick!
What.... you can't do that?
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What.... you can't do that?
No, but now I want to!!! How cool would it be if I were at a client presentation in a conference room and I just started doing that? I wonder if it's possible in heels?
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Here is a nice interview with a 62 year old competitive Kettlebell lifter.

This gentlemen recently completed 60 consecutive reps in the jerk with 2×24kg (53lb bells) and 220 reps in the snatch with 24kg (10 minute set, changing hands once).

If you've ever tried KB jerks and snatches you can appreciate what a feat that is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BACULTiYfHA

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