And i cant really do much cardio cause of my chest. I really want to make my chest smaller any way i can with out surgery. Ive tried wearing a bra and a sports bra over it, with a support shirt to hold them down. But it still hurts when i try to do any cardio that involves bouncing. i thought if i loose an inch off my back it would be better but a females chest is mainly fat, how do i get them smaller without hurting myself?
How about a stationary exercise bike? The comfortable kind with the big seats and back supports. Basically cutting body fat will reduce the amount of fatty tissue everywhere in your body including your breasts. Some women hate that effect, so maybe you're actually lucky here. Though it varies for different women, worth a try though. Good luck.
ironically, the way to make it smaller for you is cardio
Boobs are, essentially, balls of fat encased in skin. I'd agree with most guys on here that the best way to shrink them is to find cardio that doesn't include much bouncing.
Good luck chera! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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SO the bike is about as good as it gets? what about an eliptical trainer? Maybe i should sign up for jp's bike class... but i dont think i can keep up even though its stationary lol
A friend of mine lost 25 pounds from a change in diet alone. During this time she went from a D-cup to a C-cup. I don't know the details. But diet is key.
Don't know what to tell you about the cardio for now.
ok well im at a 34DDD and its done nothing but hurt my back, slouch my shoulders, and hurt my shoulders.
well here is my measurements
45 Chest
30 waist
40 Butt
im 5'3 and 170 lbs i want to loose 45lbs. With what JP has me on i have gain 4lbs lost 2 inches. im not so much as worried about my weight going down but my main reason is inches and my chest.
JP offered me a diet, but i need something thats a bit more restricted... the one im on gives me freedom to eat what ever i please.
Which diet was your lady friend on Rock Hard?
And Capp im on that circut training thing... lol whatcha doin to loose all that boob?
When you say you want a diet that more restrictive, do you mean in what things you can eat or in the amounts?
Either way, I'd talk to JP and tell him your concerns. There are other diets available and not all work for everyone. I count calories. I've tried the ones where I don't count them, and I don't lose fat. So I count.
Strangely, I'm currently using a low carb diet ("Adam's Diet" from this website) that's designed so you don't have to count. Yet, I still count the calories. I have to.
If you're looking for one that's more restrictive in what you can eat, still talk to JP. There are other diets that are more specific in calorie counts and in what, specifically, to eat to get healthy and lose the fat.
If breast tissue is truly mostly fat, then a combination of restricted calorie diet lifting and cardio is best.
The extra muscle will help your posture and help you hold what you've got easier.
Losing fat may reduce them, but there's no telling by how much. Extra cardio won't specifically shed the fat, but it should be fine as long as it doesn't compromise your lifting progress. Long term and short term, the lifting will give you more fat loss bang for your buck than the extra cardio.
So, don't do so much cardio that you burn out and/or make yourself too tired to lift or go to the gym.
My gym, 24 Hour Fitness, has a big sign that says "Moderation is the key to a successful fitness program." I think it's their best advice. People who try to do too much, too quickly, stop coming to the gym.
ok well im at a 34DDD and its done nothing but hurt my back, slouch my shoulders, and hurt my shoulders
My wife (ahem) has somewhat the same problem. She is currently experimenting with several different brands of sports bras designed for larger breasts - have you looked into that route yet?
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Originally posted by FlyinM: My wife (ahem) has somewhat the same problem.
Lucky bastard!
Chera: She was on a very unhealthy starvation diet. Along with her desired weight loss, she also got pneumonia, couldn't sleep at night, and broke into crying fits at the strangest times.
walking/ slow bike riding with your heart rate kept as close to 130 beats per minute will definately get results. it does need to be done for boringly long amounts of time.
you should also try some light weight work as well to help with your posture. building muscles alone will increase your metabolism and extra calories will be burned even when you arent training. ( muscle require more energy to keep healthy).
but you should mix both cardio and weights. weights arent a bouncy exercise either, although you may not see a difference on the scales you will notice it in you body. this is only due to muscles weighing more than fat.
maybe even try pilates, it is great for toning your body and shedding pounds. plus it is low intencity so there will be no bouncing around.
and for your diet, just stop drinking fizzy drink or swap it for diet fizzy drink. also try to stop eating fried foods. just small ajustments to you diet will see huge results.
ok the whole sports bra's for bigger busted females, been there done that. It doesnt seem to work for me. My chest is pretty much well lifted on its own and a sports bra doesnt do much but just keep them lifted. So far my best cure for my problem is a bra with a sports bra over it and imma start wrapping them with an ace bandage just so they dont bounce.
As for my diet, still a little lost on it but im surfing the web and looking like crazy. For now ill just stay away from the cokes and fast foods like i have been doing. And load up on salads before i eat a main dish or something that way i feel "full" and slow it down on the main course.
The weight training part, JP has me on a circut training program. Im at the beginning level cause mind that i havent done this in a verrrrrrrrrrry loooooong time. So i am hitting the weights 3-4 times a week and im doing the eliptical trainer for an hour a day. I want to eat constantly now more then ever but darnit its hard not too... maybe thats why i put on 4lbs but to be honest my clothes fit looser. hmmm oh well i think im starting to understand this weight loss problem.
And here from the title, I thought the post was going to be from a guy. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Chera, just to sum up all of the different answers, when you lose some bodyfat, you will lose some size. However, being as endowed as you are, I think you'll probably still have a problem for running. My friend was a DD with a very lean frame and she couldn't run because of the pain. The simple solution as mentioned is to use some other form of aerobic/anaerobic exercise that is less impact. Cycling, elliptical, rowing machine and the nordic skiier (if your gym has one) all work well. The skiing machine is actually a more caloric intensive workout than running. In the summer, rollerblading, which is also as calorically intense. In other words, there are a lot of low and no-impact options for you. Take it from a guy who has two surgically depleted knees - you don't have to run.
Your main issue seems to be to set up a diet and exercise routine to lose the BF. If you are a member at JPs gym, go see him for help with setting up a customized plan. The aerobic/anaerobic work he adds in can take into account your limitations due to pain and discomfort. And don't worry about not being able to 'keep up' in a spin class or when you start aerobic work. Eventually you'll build a base, and as we say in spin, 'the bikes don't actually go anywhere - if it's too hard, sit down, slow down, and catch up when you feel better.' In other words, you'll do what your body is capable of and it will adapt and you will get better at it.
Capp i think i saw you in the locker room once But i usually go and work out when no one is there and if someone is there i just kinda stay out of their way and dont make eye contact man or woman. Kinda shy and worse thing about it is lol i dont want no one to notice me untill i drop that 45lbs lol. sometimes i go around 9 or even if i have to so i know no one is there 3 am.
And a picture ... hmmm dont think so. but hey at least you guys tried.
JP just showed me the circut training thing one time and i do it on my own. I only bother him if i have a question. And i dont go to any of the classes cause of my schedule. Being a full time student and having a full time job will leave you with no time at all. but hey cap maybe one day ill try to work out with ya but to be honest i think you can kick my butt and i dont want to slow ya down.
ok kaiser, so if i join the spin class and some how manage my schedule to go around it. I will do it if it will help me loose bf.
JP put me on a weight circut. And i only ask him for help when i dont understand something or if i feel like im doing it wrong.
Plus my hours and his hours are kinda off from each other. I can attempt the bike now my diet, im starting to count calorie's ... im giong to try that for a while i would like to loose 8lbs a month i know i can do this just need a lil boost.
I think that it is very important for you to distinguish weight changes and fat changes. You say you gained 4lbs but your clothes feel looser. The reason for this is because you will gain some muscle while lifting and eating properly. Muscle weighs a lot more than fat so you can weigh the same and still look different.
Its ironic because most will shrill at the thought of gaining muscle, but "toning" is the combination of losing fat and gaining muscle to get a lean, hard look.
So as long as you have to keep changing clothes and the mirror starts looking better, keep it up and dont worry so much about the actual weight number. Try this, because we are our worst critics: take a picture of yourself every month at the same time so that you can compare your progress. Take it in the morning after you brush your teeth and all but before you eat or drink anything. Then do this exactly one month later under the same circumstances. Youll see a noticable difference, and you can adjust your routine accordingly.
And make sure that you are lifting heavily during your workouts. 10lbs arent going to cut it if you can handle 20lbs or 30lbs.
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Originally posted by Chera: JP put me on a weight circut. And i only ask him for help when i dont understand something or if i feel like im doing it wrong.
Sounds like you're off to a good start. A weight circuit is a good way to get going with lifting, too.
The biggest mistake I see the folks making while doing the circuit is lifting weights that are way too light. They do 12 reps, but I'm sure they could do 25 at that weight.
Make sure that you are lifting enough to just be able to finish the number of reps that you're shooting for and, if you tried, eak out one more. Like, if you're shooting for 12 and you feel like you could have done 13, that's okay. But, 15 or 16? You probably need to bump it up a bit.
If you're counting calories, you might want to sign up for a fitday.com account. It's free and will help to keep track of what you're taking in.
Even for people who use diets where there's no counting involved, I think counting calories for a while is an eye opener. After you log for a while, you really know which things are not even worth eating for that amount of calories.
When I started dieting, 65lbs ago, I still ate everything, just in moderation. I know I still can, but some things just aren't worth it. Counting helped me to realize that some things are just so calorie dense for what they are that they're just not worth it (pie crusts, pancakes, "normal" bagels, Big Macs, etc.).
When I started dieting, 65lbs ago, I still ate everything, just in moderation. I know I still can, but some things just aren't worth it. Counting helped me to realize that some things are just so calorie dense for what they are that they're just not worth it (pie crusts, pancakes, "normal" bagels, Big Macs, etc.).
Excellent point. I hear story after story that some people had no idea how many calories they consumed in a day. When the started logging ACTUAL food eaten, it usually ends up alot more than they thought. Of course, some people tend to underestimate their portions consumed too. Once you know where the calories are coming from, then you can find suitable substitutes for the 'calorie dense' ones.
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WELL for the calories im substatuting my cereal.... jeez who know corn pops could be soo bad. But ya know what im tearing up that kashi!!
and skim milk tastes soooo nasty i miss my WHOLE MILK.
Weights 3x15 by the third set im tore up lol but i manage to finish. cardio still attempting it as much as i can.
Originally posted by Chera: ok kaiser, so if i join the spin class and some how manage my schedule to go around it. I will do it if it will help me loose bf.
Chera, kay fahalak? [Kaiser trying to transliterate]
Do the biking if it is something you enjoy, or at least tolerate, to burn some kcals. As you get more acclimated, try to work in some intervals... strong ones. That's the best type of fat burning you can get from 'cardio'.
Craig and the other experts can give you interval programs that are much more time efficient at burning fat... ones that only go 25 minutes including warm-up and cool down. But, whether the spin class, on your own doing something else, or their interval programs, the key is consistency. It should be something you don't dread doing. In my case, the music and comraderie of a spin class make burning 600 kcals in 50 minutes a lot more fun that if I had to do it on my own - that would be pure torture!
As everyone is saying, ultimately, it comes down to calories in and calories out. There are a million different combos for doing it... you just have to find what works for you that you can stick with. Again, good luck.
PS: Don't worry - you'll get used to the taste of skim milk soon enough. But if you can't, stick with 2% or 1%. Studies have shown that it may be just as effective in fat loss as no-fat milk. The amount of fat in both is still negligible. Or work your way down to skim.
Craig Ballantyne, one of the fitness advisor from MF, & one of the experts here . He's done great things with his Turbulence Trainings & Get Lean program. Caps knows him for sure .
Chera, I've been reading this thread here and there for the past few days. I think you are doing a wonderful thing and wish you great success.
One thing that does stick out from your posts and something you might want to think about. Don't worry so much about what people are thinking about you, or how you appear to them. Think of that gym as YOUR place to better yourself and screw everyone else. When you see that co-worker who was staring, go right up to him and explain you are here to work hard and you don't want to see him at all while you are there. You seem to remind me of the lady in our local club about 1.5 years ago...She was overweight and I could tell she was very shy and didn't like people around while she worked out. If it got busy, she would leave after only 15-20 minutes. Well, she stuck with it and I could tell she got less shy as her body started to change. When I left the gym about 6-7 months ago, she had dropped about 50lbs and wore a smile in the gym 24-7. Everyday I saw guys bench 400lbs, Squat 500lbs and doing olympic presses with ease no matter how big the weight. I was more impressed by the lady, than the powerlifter moving 500lbs. So my point, don't think it takes a perfect body, a 6-pack, and a tan while moving large weights to impress people. I'm impressed with people like you who see a problem, address it, and reach their goals. Thats what the gym is all about, not the damn number on the scale or on the number on the end of the barbell....
Good Luck and stick with it. It WILL get much easier.
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