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Old 03-18-2004, 04:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am new to this board and this is my first post. I have enjoyed what I have read so far, so I decided to take a shot at it. I am 27 yr old male, 6'2" 270lbs former college football player (O-Lineman just like Zlighting ) I have always been in the mindset to gain/maintain my body weight because I would lose it if I didn't with all of the practices. I am now wanting to lose weight. I would love to get down to 210 - 220lbs. I realize it is not going to happen overnight. This is the first time I have really worked out since I played. I figured I needed to quit talking about doing it and get off my butt. I have joined a gym and for the last couple of months I have eating the same and worked out approx 4 time a week with weights and 4-5 times a week cardio. Well, I wish I have been this consistant but I haven't. Sometimes I will go twice a week. This is the first time I have really worked out since I played. I figured I needed to quit talking about doing it and get off my butt. I do not have a real weight routine and I have been doing approx 35-45 mins on the treadmill. I am now looking into a consistant weight program that will assist me in loosing weight. Can anyone help me with this? I did have back surgery a couple of years ago to fix a herniated disk L4L5. (microdiscectomy) I have no problems with my back and I have made a full recovery. As for the cardio, I have seen people talk about the HIIT program. Should I focus on doing this versus going the same old 45 min routine? How much weight would be ideal to lose a month? Would 5lbs/mo. be a good realistic goal?
Sorry for being so wordy and long. I look forward to your replys. Thank you!
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just bumping this post for the Expert Panel.
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Old 03-25-2004, 09:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Just bumping again....can someone throw him a bone?

Barring some enlighten post here...you can start with the workouts Jp has posted as well check out the workouts in Men's Fitness...from you sports background you have a good feel for the weight room...to drop pounds without losing to much muscle mass you will need to pay close attention to your diet.

You will find differing opinions in here on cardio as a element to fat loss. The key is every body is different. I would limit the cardio to no more than three 30 min sessions a week using the HIIT protocol. Don't train you energy system on the same day as strength.

I hope this helps as a start.
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Old 03-25-2004, 10:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I like this routine.
Day 1 : Chest and Back

Chest

Flat Barbell Bench Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
Low Incline Dumbbell Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
Dips : 2 x 6-8 reps

Back

Chin ups : 2 x 6-8 reps
Deadlifts : 2 x 6-8 reps
Barbell Rows : 2 x 6-8 reps
Shrugs : 1 x 10 reps

Day 2 : OFF

Day 3 : Legs

Squats : 2 x 6-8 reps
Hack Squats : 2 x 6-8 reps
Leg Curls : 2 x 6-8 reps
Straight Legged Deadlifts : 2 x 6-8 reps
Standing Calve Raises : 4 x 10 reps

Day 4 : OFF

Day 5 : Shoulders, Triceps and Biceps

Shoulders

Military Press in Rack : 2 x 6-8 reps
Seated Dumbbell Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
Standing Lateral Raises : 2 x 10 reps
Triceps :

Narrow Grip bench Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
French Press : 2 x 6-8 reps

Biceps :

Barbell Curls : 2 x 6-8 reps
Hammer Curls : 1 x 6-8 reps

Day 6 : OFF

Day 7 : OFF
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Old 03-25-2004, 10:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Let me start by directing you to an article that directly addresses your cardio question (realize this is just one 'opinion' of many, but it's a popular one):

http://www.strong-research.com/emagazine/ctc2.php

And I'll continue with my personal experience in changing my body comp (from a 200 pound pudge ball (25%bf) to a more lean, fit guy (170, 10%bf)). For me the key was really nutrition - tracking my calories and learning the discipline of not eating for entertainment allowed me to change my body comp much more quickly than exercise alone (which I tried in the past). This provided THE ultimately motivation for continued exercise and continued healthy eating (typically it'd falter after a month or two). And I don't mean watching what you eat or avoiding fried foods, I mean tracking EVERY. SINGLE. CALORIE. that you put in your mouth. Yes, that means the one potato chip you took from a coworker or the half cookie you ate from the dessert platter or whatever. If you have to - estimate - and always estimate upwards (in accounting, that's what we'd call the conservatism).
Basically, what worked for me was being completely hardcore for about 6 months - clean eating with NO excuses, hitting the gym practically every day with NO excuses. Hungover? I went. Tired? Depressed? Busy? I went. On vacation? Visiting family? Traveling for work? I went.
I'm at a point now where I am far less hardcore, but am well educated about exercise and nutrition and have struck, I think, a good and healthy balance for my life as a whole (mind, body, and spirit).
I should add that there was no book or magazine that helped me along at first - I had a free training session at my gym and a free nutrition counseling session. Both were immensely helpful, and along with the fact that my gym had a real nice, helpful atmosphere was great as well.
Good luck!! And make sure to keep us posted.
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Old 03-25-2004, 03:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I can add some insight into the trek of the former O-lineman who now needs to get to a weight that he can be happy with for the rest of his life!

During my senior year of college I weighed between 280-295lbs. I was body comped (H2O)in the spring of my senior year @ 17.5% weighing 289lbs. After playing ball, I started RUNNING and CYCLING. Notice the capital letters! I became a running FREAK putting in around 60-70 miles per week and running in every 5 and 10K race I could find just to compete in SOMETHING! Around 3 years later I was body comped @ 8.3% at a weight of 223lbs. And YES all you o-linemen out there....there really IS a 6-pack under all that tissue! Well, as I got older, I became less competitive with the running and now (16 years later) I am about 240lbs. and approx. 12% BF.

I guess my advice is pretty simple.....get your butt out and burn calories! I also changed how I ate (I was REALLY a fat phobic for many years...). I logged everything and tracked fat grams etc. on my computer (along with workouts and HR monitor data).

Many on this board already know that I am a strict vegan and have been since I finished my undergrad but just so that you know that I DO eat..I probably average anywhere from 3500-4500 calories per day. BTW, my workouts these days are VERY intense and frequent. Take care!
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Old 03-25-2004, 04:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Great Info. Thank you. The biggest thing for me is eating to give my body the correct aount of nutrition and not just becaused I am bored. The second thing is like you said...get up off your ass and go to the gym. Thank you for the help and thank you Tin Man for bumping my post back up a couple of times.
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by vin:
changing my body comp (from a 200 pound pudge ball (25%bf)
oooooh.... that hurts! Too close to home.
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