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Old 04-27-2007, 02:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It makes me laugh cos everyone always says bulk first and then lose the fat as its easier. If its so damn easy why doesnt everyone have big muscles and a 6 pack????????????????????????

Fact is neither is easy than the other but if your goal was to ride a horse you wouldnt practice on cows at the rodeo first
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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IMO, you should lose some fat first. That's what you want, right?

Getting down to 11% at around 140 does seem small, but take a look at what other 22 year old's in Malasia wearing fuzzy hats look like. Are they thin and trim?

Personally, I'm guessing you want to look good to women, right?* When you get down to that 11% or so, at around 140, will you have the body that nets the chicks?

There aren't too many really buff 22 year old guys around here, and the ones that are aren't getting any more than the smaller ones.

Go where you want to go first, then pick the next goal.



* just being honest. I'm in the same boat. While I know women look deeper than a guy's body, not being in the shape you want sabotages your confidence. For me, I'd love to be bigger, but I want to be lean first. Plus, I think it will be easier to add muscle with less fat, starting at a leaner level.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:48 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I say, just right right and lift! Sure, there's a fast and extremely optimal way to go about it, but unless your training for a figure or other athletic competition in 2 months, there's no need to push the envelope.

Just eat what you know is right, execute a good lifting program and let it work itself out. You're 22% BF, so that will come down naturally. When it gets down to lower percentages you then have to start being much more precise.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:32 AM   #34 (permalink)
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my only advice (continued) is not to get stuck on "weight loss" mode. The gym is full of people that's been "losing weight" for 20 fucking years and they still look like shit.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:57 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I say, just right right and lift!
Just "right right?"

Sheesh, I can't use drinking to excuse that one.

Eat right.
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:18 AM   #36 (permalink)
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my only advice (continued) is not to get stuck on "weight loss" mode. The gym is full of people that's been "losing weight" for 20 fucking years and they still look like shit.
thats cos they are muppets that use exercise as the primary fat burn when they are over 20% body fat its like chipping away at Everest with a teaspoon, do the crime pay the time and the diet must pay the price
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:41 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Pre-workout drink
[Gym]
Post-workout: Fruit & simple shake
Breakfast: Spinach & cheese omelet
Snack: 2 great tastes
Lunch: Chicken & cauliflower
Roasted peppers
1 tablespoon olive oil
Snack: 2 great tastes
Post workout: [another shake]
Dinner: Moroccan Chicken

That's 5 shakes in total. Way too much. Any small simple solid foods you can recomend?
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:49 AM   #38 (permalink)
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rice\beans\any lean meat\cheese\nuts\vegis
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:02 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Well, I do not tolerate carbs well, so rice and beans are out. Thx though, I think I can work something out.
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:19 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I have another name for protein shakes. I call them "food."
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:04 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Good one lostdog!
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:27 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I have another name for protein shakes. I call them "food."
chicken and brown rice beats a shake any day...and they don't go bad too quick either.
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:39 AM   #43 (permalink)
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chicken and brown rice beats a shake any day...and they don't go bad too quick either.
Well, chicken anyway. I don't eat rice much.

I agree, that all things being equal, solids beat liquids. Shakes sure are cheap and convenient.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:36 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I think what you guys said is much better advice than mine, working on habits will get you to those goals faster.

Simple foods? I literally survive on only cheeses, eggs, chicken and beef for my protein source. Fruits are very portable source of your portions of vege.
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:06 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Hey Jijin, Malaysia BOLEH! hahahaha

Well, yea I am working on my habits too. Boleh la this game of bf%...just need to do it right, and keep doing it right...
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:46 AM   #46 (permalink)
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hehe yeah man

keep at the habit changing then sure can one =)
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:32 AM   #47 (permalink)
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With hard work, you'll definately get there. But like has already been said to death: Don't focus just on 14 days. Also, has anyone else pointed out that "Being really strong and looking like a baywatch model" is neither simple nor easily attainable?
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:33 AM   #48 (permalink)
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If you really want to get serious about your diet check out


www.precisionnutrition.com


One of the best purchases I made in a while besides NROL and Muscle Revolution.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:09 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Yea, I am a full user at precisionnutrition.com, thx!
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