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Old 04-11-2007, 12:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Aerobic HIIT vs. Anaerobic HIIT?

Anybody know the difference? In Alwyn's latest article he mention's both, but doesn't really say what the difference is. Is anaerobic HIIT like weight circuit training and aerobic HIIT on the treadmill? Or are they same, but with aerobic HIIT just using longer intervals and less intensity? What would be some numbers for the two also, right now I do my intervals with 60 second sprint and 120 second jog.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jason, isn't it just the length of intervals that determines whether it is anaerobic or aerobic? Anaerobic is shorter, more intense intervals. Aerobic is longer and (by necessity) less intense intervals. I hope the experts chime in on this.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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3. High Intensity Aerobic Interval Training

The next tool we'll pull out is essentially a lower intensity interval method where we use aerobic intervals.

Here's the abstract from that study. TWO WEEKS OF HIGH-INTENSITY AEROBIC INTERVAL TRAINING INCREASES THE CAPACITY FOR FAT OXIDATION DURING EXERCISE IN WOMEN Catchy title, huh?

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Each session consisted of ten, 4-min bouts at ~90% VO2peak with 2-min rest between intervals.
That's pretty tough, so you'd have to be going significantly slower to keep it up for four minutes. Aerobic vs anaerobic.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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by 90% VO2 peak do they mean 90% VO2 Max? because, 4mins @ 90% VO2max is INTENSE -
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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that's probably just how they say it up in Canadia, eh?
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Sorry, it's a strange scientific sub-dialect unknown to me. Or perhaps it's just Guelphian.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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For simplicity and arguements sake lets say anaerobic is sprints <30sec and aerobic is "sprints" lasting longer then 30sec.

90% of VO2max is almost as intense as it gets. Unless they were highly detrained. (didn't read the article in case that was actually mentioned in there)
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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read the abstract now. They tested before the study and had average of VO2max of 26ml.kg.bw......for those at home thats pretty crap. Improvement of 13% in 2 weeks? This must have been the first thing those women have done in years. I say ignore the 4min at 90%VO2max for simplicity sake.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Each session consisted of ten, 4-min bouts at ~90% VO2peak with 2-min rest between intervals.


wow, that 4 minutes would leave me in a heap on the floor...not to mention the whole thing would last an hour....i dunno if i could encorporate multiple sessions of that into my week and recover faster from it then anaerobic intervals
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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ha! I know something you don't know, I know something you don't know :p


When you're working at 100%VO2 max you're working at the highest possible level that you can manage.

When you're working at your VO2 peak, you're working at the highest possible level that you are willing to work at.

Basically, if you had a client on the treadmill and kept increasing intensity they would eventually scream at you that they can't take it anymore and they would give up. That's their VO2 peak.
If you pushed them to keep going and they magically said ok let's do it, and you kept increasing the intensity and kept increasing the intensity until their body could no longer deal with it, then you've found their VO2 max.

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confirmed - a term used in fitness circles in Canadia (actually that's kind of what I figured after reading the 26 ml/kg )
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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LisaS, just curious... you wrote "Canadia" in both of your posts above. Did you mean "Canada", or were you using archaic or colloquial nomenclature? Not trying to be a grammar nazi here, just wondering if that's a typo or another name for Canada that I've never heard before (wasn't sure at first where you were referring to until I checked).
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Spankdat, I've heard it used as a joke ... it's kind of backing the country name out of the name of the citizenry (Canadians) ... so Canada becomes Canadia. At least I was taking Lisa's misnomer in that tongue-in-cheek light.
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I've seen Canadia tongue-in-cheek on this forum before- sorry if I offended by trying to tie into an old joke -
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Canadans can be so fussy.
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Hey, don't generalize!
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I've seen Canadia tongue-in-cheek on this forum before- sorry if I offended by trying to tie into an old joke -
No offence taken. You're from Americia, right?
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