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03-23-2007, 02:42 AM
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Ribcage Expansion
I read this article:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1502695
Always kind of wanted to try some getting my ribcage bigger. Ive always heard breathing squats and pullovers are the way to go. In the article he talks alot about poses, im not a bodybuilder, are the poses mostly for them, or are they nessecary to learn to get the ribcage expansion?
Also, when preforming breathing squats and breathing pullovers, how is the breathing technique. And how often should you do them in your training week?
BTW: im 18 years old, maybe a bit late, but i should still have some time left to do this. and im not looking for some miracle hyooge ribcage out of this, i just want it to get a bit bigger, thats all.
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03-23-2007, 06:29 AM
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Buy Arnie's encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding he goes into that. I have it.
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03-23-2007, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by karky
I read this article:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1502695
Always kind of wanted to try some getting my ribcage bigger. Ive always heard breathing squats and pullovers are the way to go. In the article he talks alot about poses, im not a bodybuilder, are the poses mostly for them, or are they nessecary to learn to get the ribcage expansion?
Also, when preforming breathing squats and breathing pullovers, how is the breathing technique. And how often should you do them in your training week?
BTW: im 18 years old, maybe a bit late, but i should still have some time left to do this. and im not looking for some miracle hyooge ribcage out of this, i just want it to get a bit bigger, thats all.
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It's a giant waste of time, IMO. I've done breathing squats and pullovers in the past. Trust me, my ribcage didn't expand.
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03-23-2007, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by karky
I read this article:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1502695
Always kind of wanted to try some getting my ribcage bigger. Ive always heard breathing squats and pullovers are the way to go. In the article he talks alot about poses, im not a bodybuilder, are the poses mostly for them, or are they nessecary to learn to get the ribcage expansion?
Also, when preforming breathing squats and breathing pullovers, how is the breathing technique. And how often should you do them in your training week?
BTW: im 18 years old, maybe a bit late, but i should still have some time left to do this. and im not looking for some miracle hyooge ribcage out of this, i just want it to get a bit bigger, thats all.
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when I saw this article posted on T-nation I almost spit my coffee out, but coffee's too precious...point being that rib cage expansion is crap, as is most every article that I've actually read by that guy.
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03-23-2007, 08:02 AM
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I don't know if it's crap or not. I just know that I don't want to have a funny looking ribcage like in all those pics.
Why would someone want that look?
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03-23-2007, 10:16 AM
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Who dat? Who dere?
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Originally Posted by umass
when I saw this article posted on T-nation I almost spit my coffee out, but coffee's too precious...point being that rib cage expansion is crap, as is most every article that I've actually read by that guy.
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Agreed. The good doc is somewhat stuck on old school body building stuff. But, T-Nation is 'Bodybuilding's Thinktank', so it's right up some of those guys' alley.
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03-23-2007, 10:41 AM
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I agree with Lost Dog, [stomach vacuums and] ribcage expansions both look pretty silly. If there was a definite carryover to static measurements I'd be all over it, but it just looks like a big rooster show to me.
On a 'trying to be helpful' note, when I was in theatre school my breathing instructor told us to use small bouncy balls as myofasical release on our ribcage muscles (the intercostals between the ribs) to help with ribcage expansion. More rib room translates to more breath capacity, and their approach was to try to relax the muscles holding the ribs so close together. don't know if that was the contributing factor but I can get a pretty decent ribcage expansion nowadays. Its not worth the effort.
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03-23-2007, 11:21 AM
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wasn't he the guy that had the "put an inch on your arms in a week" article?
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03-23-2007, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbla
wasn't he the guy that had the "put an inch on your arms in a week" article?
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Not as bad as charles poliquin's put an inch on in a day
The last thing I need is a bigger ribcage.. But I do think it may be possible to expand it at a younger age. Since starting workout out mine has gotten bigger for sure, but it could have no been due to working out its hard to tell.
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03-23-2007, 12:59 PM
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Who the fuck would want to have a ribcage like that?...it looks absolutely ridiculous.
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03-23-2007, 10:10 PM
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I remember years ago on another forum an MD was explaining how people with emphysema can develop a slightly expanded ribcage. Years of overxpansion of the lungs from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease caused this. But that days-in, days-out for years. So I doubt doing a few exercises will lead to the same effect.
A lot of Darden's stuff is crap.
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03-24-2007, 04:01 AM
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Most of his crap is crap...
But it can be fun to read haha
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03-24-2007, 04:39 AM
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thanks for the heads up guys! Thats why i always post it here when i get crazy ideas :p so you can talk me out of it 
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03-24-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiron
I remember years ago on another forum an MD was explaining how people with emphysema can develop a slightly expanded ribcage. Years of overxpansion of the lungs from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease caused this. But that days-in, days-out for years. So I doubt doing a few exercises will lead to the same effect.
A lot of Darden's stuff is crap.
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Yeah. People who live at very high altitude tend to have the barrel chests, too. Like in Tibet.
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03-24-2007, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Most of his crap is crap...
But it can be fun to read haha
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Am I the only one who has noticed that all of his articles have a formula?
Title: Gigantic/Huge (insert bodypart) in 2 weeks!!!!!!!
followed by(in order)
amusing bodybuilding story from the 60s
some pictures of a young bodybuilding darden
story about Casey Viator, and how hyuuuuuggeeeeee he was
a paragraph about super-genius Arthur Jones and some of his words of wisdom
Ridiculous HIT program
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03-24-2007, 06:34 PM
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You've figured out the secret formula! Watch out, PA, especially if some car with dark-tinted windows starts following you around. 
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03-24-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiron
I remember years ago on another forum an MD was explaining how people with emphysema can develop a slightly expanded ribcage. Years of overxpansion of the lungs from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease caused this. But that days-in, days-out for years. So I doubt doing a few exercises will lead to the same effect.
A lot of Darden's stuff is crap.
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I dont really think you can compare the two..
Working out the 'ribcage' area = heavy loads for short periods of time while the emphysema is more chronic but less overall stress.
I walk everday and my calfs are active, but it wasnt until I trained them that they gained a few inches.
Darden has some interesting ideas.. Probally work well for some people, probally are shit for most though. Only one way to find out.
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03-24-2007, 11:57 PM
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People who want their ribcages to look like that should get emphysema. That way, they can have big ribcages, and also, we could elimate the stupid. hahaha
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03-24-2007, 11:59 PM
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