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Old 02-25-2007, 09:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Cleans: Incorrect form or not at all?

Hey guys, I just tried to post this but I don't think it worked. I apologize if this is a double post.

I was a forum regular back-in-the-day...when we all posted at MH, JP survived the t-mag ball squatting scandal, and cuvermodel was into "renegade training." Since then, I've finished college, joined the Marines, and spent a lot time in Iraq, hence the non-posting. I don't know if anyone remembers me; I think I went by "jacobg." But it's good to see some familiar names still on the forum (vudu, mahler, etc.)

Anyway, I broke my wrist a few years back--carpal scaphoid, I believe--and it has since healed. I've been working on wrist flexibility for the catch/rack position when doing cleans, but the previously-broken wrist just won't bend that way without a lot of pain. Not even a finger or two on the bar.

I've been doing power cleans and catching with elbows down, forearms close to vertical, and the bar resting on my hands and upper chest. Basically crap form, but it doesn't bother my wrist.

The question: I'm not a competitive athlete, so I'm basically just doing this for my own enjoyment. Is it OK to continue to do power cleans with the modified technique, or should I remove them because I can't manage correct form?

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Old 02-25-2007, 10:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't even bother catching then.....either clean pulls or high pulls would be better for you. Remember, the catch is secondary in these lifts so don't even meww with them if that is a problem area.
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would break the movement down like dos said. You are just creating a major "power leak" with the catch and front squat portion of the movement (which later on will be a pretty bad habit).
Also, you may want to add movements (during warmup or drill time) that help to increase the R.O.M. in your wrist.
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Hey Jake!!! Good to "see" ya!!!
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Many thanks guys. I will switch to pulls.

And good to see you too vudu! I love this forum--post a question and a couple hours later you have an answer from a nationally-known coach.
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Jake!

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Old 02-25-2007, 02:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I remember you...that means you must have had some sort of character

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Good to hear from you again Jake. Are you back in Madison?
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Hey guys. Unfortunately, I'm not in Madison...I live on base in 29 Palms, California, and I'll probably be going back to Iraq near the end of the year. In the mean time, I'm trying to move my platoon's workout program beyond the standard pushups, flutter kicks, and long runs.
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