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Old 02-20-2007, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am doing TT for Fat Loss and loving it. I have read Berardi and Mohr's nutrition stuff, but have a question.

I followed South beach Diet for a while before TT and had ok results. I find that Berardi is similar in respect to no precessed carbs. I am following the TT nutrition more now and having better results.

Anyway, my question is on salad dressing. I do not like just olive oil or vinegar on a salad. So what is better regular ranch or light ranch or fat free ranch? I ask because South Beach always focused on watching the sugar content, and since low fat or fat free has more sugar they recommended the regular dressing.

Can someone provide some insight on which salad dressing to use besides just olive oil?

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Old 02-20-2007, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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On the whole low vs high carb debate, you walk a fine line. Especially with salad dressings. Low carb is typically high fat (with dressing). Fat's not bad, but if you use a lot of dressing, you still have to realize that you are eating a lot of calories. Also, the fat in commercial dressings is usually soybean oil. One of the the worst for you.

So, the dressing you pick has pros and cons. I look at the serving size that I'm going to eat and decide on that. Some light/low cal dressings might have 2-4g C per serving. The regular one might also have 2-4g C. I choose the light/low cal.

While I'm not about low fat, low fat often means less soybean oil. Provided that it's not just a ton of sugar (like low fat Catalina or French), low fat can actually be pretty low in calories, too. Take the Newman's Own Light Balsamic (in the packets at McDonald's, too).

I don't have the nutrition info on your Ranch comparison, but I'll tell you that I chose "light" Ranch. It's got less soybean oil and I think it had 1g more C per serving than the regular one. The low carb version (I don't think it's even made anymore) had 1g less C per serving than the regular. Big whoop.

Keep sugar in mind, but also know that grams of sugar on a label include things like the natural sugar in an apple or carrot and DON'T include the C in things like maltodextrin, which is as empty a C as you can get. Malto might as well be table sugar, for what it is/does. Look to the ingredients, but don't get hung up too much.

Hope this helps and not hinders.
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I just realized that this was in Craig's TT forum. I've done quite a bit if TT, but I didn't mean to come across as a TT nutrition expert. I'm not.
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thanks lost dog, that makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the response. I am really trying to pound the salads, but olive oil and vinegar dressing just doesn't do it for me.
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I'm not TT expert, either, but...

It's been a while since I've used it, but there are dry ranch dressing packets that you mix up yourself. That would give you the ranch flavor and let you have a little more control over the type of oil used, etc. Just check the sugar content on the label to be sure; I don't recall how much is in that type of mix.
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bill, I almost suggested the packets and making your own. I do that, using light canola oil "mayo." But, the packets do have malto in them, so I always hesitate to suggest it.

It goes back to that balance. The amount is likely very, very small. But, my guess is that CB, John Berardi, and Chris Mohr don't recommend making your own Ranch from those little packets. Maybe they do...

They would probably say "suck it up." Not really, but they might suggest that you try your hand at making your own dressings from healthy ingredients.

A lot of time, I just use salsa.

Avocado, mashed and blended with salsa and water is good too. Like guacamole dressing.

"Honey" mustard dressing. Just mustard and Equal/Splenda and oil and/or water. Go with a fancy mustard and you won't miss the honey.

Other oils and vinegars with a variety of herbs and spices make good dressings. There are all sorts of specialty vinegars at the natural food stores.

Sesame oil (mix with canola oil or light olive oil if the sesame is too strong and expensive) and rice wine vinegar
Olive oil and balsamic vinegar
Walnut oil and apple cider vinegar

The other oils are usually too subtle to bother with. I use canola, olive, sesame, and walnut.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Roland, I appreciate the info.

Honestly, I have no idea on the answer to this question. I've never eaten salad dressing (had a bad experience as a kid), so I've never thought of this.

If you guys have any remaining questions on nutrition, let me know. I'll post them to Chris M. and Mike Roussel on my message board and get back to you.

Thanks again roland, i appreciate you dropping by this forum.

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