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01-29-2007, 06:23 PM
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Señor Member
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Dos, Mike, Eric, Tony, Frank, Lou, Bill and everyone else...
I cross post my log to another site in an effort to pimp NROL. I spent the first 3x12 of the FL being more conscious of the tempo, to which I had this "individual" named Blooming Lotus (he's a Blooming something alright) post this to me:
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I don't really want to make a mess of your thread but reading about your efforts to slow down your squat eccenctric and your lunge dip and your crunch, I couldn't help but wonder a. why it is exactly yoU think youre doing that and b. where abouts you carry the extra load doing that for more motor unit recruitment might produce??
I understand exactly why ii would imagine I might do such a thing but for mee Cynic, that would be about getting a longer and deeper concentric ..
i say that because , like with what I was saying about cardio pre-weights.. it's about ventriculation and improving the MUR capacity through the lengthening during the eccentric, if you can understand the difference in what you're lengthening, by relaxing into the additional length .
I hope that makes some sense to you. I personally try to apply it to alll my exercise every rep every time which is how ii think I get a better workout than most ppl when i do.Chinese people describe that as opening your 'jings' and getting a better connection to produce more power. Also try to spare a thought to your breathing . I don't thiink you're doing this but it sounds as though youre breathing 'out' more through your chest as you drop where ideally i would prbably have you relaxing your breath down into your diaphragm aas you relax and then relaxing further sinking it into your lOwer diaphragm as you build to come into your concentric so your have more 'rom' on your breath for that too.
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I won't bother to post my response, but basically, I don't like this person. He or she is flaky to say the least.
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01-29-2007, 06:26 PM
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idiot.
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01-29-2007, 06:30 PM
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WTF is ventroculation? conjuring fancy terms does not an expert make.
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01-29-2007, 06:36 PM
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Have you actually tried opening your jings and getting more range of motion on your breath?
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01-29-2007, 06:41 PM
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apparently I'm learning the wrong things in school because I'm really confused, or that person is FOS
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01-29-2007, 06:42 PM
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has this person tried closing their diaphragm so they don't make such long winded posts about nothing?
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01-29-2007, 06:45 PM
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opening your 'jings' and getting a better connection
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That just sounds downright rude!  :p
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01-29-2007, 07:05 PM
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opening your 'jings' and getting a better connection
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I'm pretty sure that's illegal in a public gym. But I can try it and let you all know how it goes.
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01-29-2007, 07:10 PM
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a little too new-age for me.......
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01-29-2007, 07:13 PM
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He needs to open his jings to typing class.
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01-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Cynic,
Open your mind.
Pay heed to the force.
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01-29-2007, 07:50 PM
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Unless there is another frank on here.. I dont fit on that list of names at all, hah!
TRANSLATION (i think).
Do you know why you are doing slow eccentrics? This is why I would do them:
Going slower can get me 'deeper' into the motion, causing more stretch. In my theory the capacity to activate motor units will be increased with lengthening the muscle.
I do this ever rep. So does everyone in China. Breath into your gut.
You know, once I read that a few times. He 'kinda' made a point, but I dont think he meant to. Of course if you use more muscle (ie go deeper in a squat) you will activate more motor units.. Then your motor unit capacity will be higher. I dont know why he sounds like he is arguing with you or something. He says he always does this.. I think hes just typing to keep himself occupied... Id be willing to bet that more motor units are activated going heavy and fast then light and slow anyway. Slow eccentrics could possibly engrave a new motor path into you though, and in your case cynic, with your back, this makes alot of sense to me..
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01-29-2007, 09:14 PM
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Mother of God. That may be the longest run on sentence I've ever seen. And that guy needs to shut the jing up.
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01-29-2007, 09:40 PM
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Thanks Frank, I quite honestly couldnt make head nor tail of that :p.
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01-29-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by umass
apparently I'm learning the wrong things in school because I'm really confused, or that person is FOS
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FOS = Fructooligosaccharides
jing....or should I say zing....actually, what most people do with their jings is a personal matter...personal training perhaps....I guess that is why I prefer coaching....
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01-29-2007, 09:47 PM
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Master of my domain
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I always open my jings so that I can squat deeper. I thought everyone did that.
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01-30-2007, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Correia
I always open my jings so that I can squat deeper. I thought everyone did that.
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As long as you keep an open gym bag under you I guess it won't be that bad. Perhaps that's Danny's secret to squatting.
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01-30-2007, 08:04 AM
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When will his article be coming out? With information like that he should be getting published somewhere in the near future. 
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