Hows My deadlift? video inside.

[ParanoidAndroid]

225x5, not a lot of weight, want to make sure my form is cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWkP5WJWGPo

Also, 1 question. What can I do to make sure I'm firing my glutes and the end of the pull? I pulled 275 also, but it was with a huge hitch.

Thanks for the help.

[Lisa~]

It's very hard to see. I can't see your feet ever and when you stand I can't see your shoulders. I can't really even see your back very well. Can you get a better camera angle?

What I can see appears to be pretty good, but it's really hard to say.

Is the sound behind the video or is there someone else lifting out of camera range?

Collar your weights so they stay tight.

[John Izzo]

I agree with LIsa 100%. Can't see much...and put some Gosh-Damn collars on that bar!

[ParanoidAndroid]

I'll try next time to tape it from the side.

I'm guessing the sound was from the sound system playing music. I had headphones on, so I'm not sure.

I'm puling on Fri(10x5x245-ABBH), so I'll get some better footage then.

[Jason B]

Like Lisa and John said, take a vid with a better angle, where you can see the whole thing. What I can tell from that video, it's pretty good, but I think you're too loose, you need to tighten up. And get your butt down a little more to use your hips more and concentrate on using all your muscle power simultaneously, and tightening up will help with that.

[ParanoidAndroid]

thanks Jason.

Here's 275(ugly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITB9...e=user&search=

[Alcoholiday]

i think your form looks good from what i can see.

one thing i would change, is controlling the negative as much as you do. I try to lower it as fast as i can, considering a lot of the injuries come from lowering incorrectly. So, lower faster, in a safe manner, but don't just drop it.

[Kevin T.]

Are you lifting sumo in that 275? Also, try and start with your shoulders behind the bar.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by Kevin T.

Are you lifting sumo in that 275? Also, try and start with your shoulders behind the bar.

yeah, that was sumo.

[Newlife]

A couple of things that stood out to me.

One, Use collars. Look at the spread of your plates in your first video. Uneven plates causes the bar to be off balance, which is not going to help.

Slow down prior to your pull. Make sure your bar is in place, and then position your feet in the same spot each time. You took less than a second, to get ready for the lift. By taking a little more time, the pull will be the same each time you attempt it.

Lock that bar out! At the end of the lift, you want to pretend you have a playboy bunny in front of you, and it's prom night. Squeeze you ass tight at the end and slightly push your hips forward while pulling your shoulders back.

Lower your weight. On 275, you went too heavy IMO. I know it's fun to pull heavy numbers, but you need more work on form. It's little things like this that will bump you up to 315 in no time.

Good luck Bro! Pull safe.

[ParanoidAndroid]

thanks to everyone who responded and helped me out. Tried focusing on some of the tips when I pulled yesterday and it helped a lot. And I actually used collars!

[MindPower]

Originally Posted by Kevin T.

Are you lifting sumo in that 275? Also, try and start with your shoulders behind the bar.

Not sure if the above comment is specifically for Sumo Deads, but if u check out this article on deadlifting by Mark Rippetoe HERE (link was from Phaedrus49er)
it says

3) The shoulders must be out in front of the bar so that
the shoulder blades are directly above the bar.

also this article on pulling by Charles Staley says

Ideally, when viewed from the side, the shoulders should either be in line with the bar or slightly ahead of it. This puts the primary pulling muscles in a position of strength and sets you up for a successful lift. Whatever you do however, avoid a starting position where your shoulders are behind the bar.

Mark

(EDIT: Fixed the link, i think)

[Lisa~]

MindPower, your link isn't working, but that's a great article so here's a link that works. And let's get his name right, too.

Analysis of the Deadlift by Mark Rippetoe

[Kevin T.]

The Dead Zone by Dave Tate says the opposite. It also includes Dr. Mel Siff as a believer in this idealogy. Note however that he says for the O-Lifts, you want the shoulders out in front of the bar.

Mistake #8: Not keeping your shoulders behind the bar

You've already read this a few times in this article and it's perhaps the most important thing next to hip position in the execution of the deadlift. Your shoulders must start and stay behind the barbell when you pull deadlifts! This will keep the barbell traveling in the right direction and keep your weight going backward. The deadlift isn't an Olympic lift and shouldn't be started like one.
I did a seminar with Dr. Mel Siff at one of his Supertraining camps (one of the best investments you can ever make!) and we showed the difference between the two positions. For the Olympic lifts you want the shoulders in front of the bar; for the deadlift you want them behind the bar. Period. The amount of misinformation out there about this is incredible.

EDIT: If you read the comments below the article, Rippetoe says he talked to Tate and says that Tate uses the shoulders behind the bar as a coaching cue. Perhaps aiming to get your shoulders behind the bar (note with a rounded upper back) actually gets you close to getting your scapulae above the bar. As in, thinking of shoulders behind the bar puts you in the right position as opposed to being too far in front of the bar.

[Lisa~]

Kevin, I used to pull up that Dave Tate quote a lot. After I read that Rippetoe article I was uncertain about what applied to a general fitness population. I asked Eric Cressey about it and here's what he said to me by email.

That's because they [Crossfit] use a lot of Olympic lifts. Show me a video of any Olympic lifter in history who has missed on the first pull. It doesn't happen.

Don't compare apples and oranges.

To add to this, heavier guys can get away with starting behind the bar, but us lighter guys need to get right up over it (helps generate some momentum because we don't have as much body weight to just lean back on).
Obviously, sumo pullers will start a bit further back than conventional pullers.

[MindPower]

Originally Posted by Lisa~

MindPower, your link isn't working, but that's a great article so here's a link that works. And let's get his name right, too.

Analysis of the Deadlift by Mark Rippetoe

oops, Thanks Lisa
should work now

[Kevin T.]

Ahh, learn something new every day. Thanks Lisa! So, that would mean I'd want to stop focusing on getting my shoulders behind the bar and instead focus on getting my shoulder blades directly above it, correct?

[Lisa~]

Originally Posted by Kevin T.

Ahh, learn something new every day. Thanks Lisa! So, that would mean I'd want to stop focusing on getting my shoulders behind the bar and inst