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Old 01-19-2007, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Low back "tucking under" when back squatting?

I have a female that trains with me and when she squats, her low back rounds a tiny bit in the bottom position. She is doing PL-style squats with near vertical shins and sitting back more. Is this due to weak hamstrings and thus a more pronounced forward lean? Or is it something else. I figured I would just have her lower the weight and perfect the form. Hopefully I will have a video soon for critiquing. Thanks!
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mel Siff actually answered a very similar question on the Supertraining forum back in 2002. Here's what he said:

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The slight terminal rotation or 'tucking under' of the pelvis is a
perfectly natural involuntary manoeuvre which enables one to sit in a low
squat position. In some of us, the flexibility of all the joints involved
during squatting may mean that this pelvic rotation is small or
non-existent, but in others, it poses a problem only if it causes a
pronounced rounding of the lumbar spine.

You probably can decrease your reliance on level of this pelvic
'counternutation' and 'nutation' if you progressively take your squats a
little deeper every week over an extended period. However, as I suggested
before, this tendency is diminished if you use a wider stance in your squats.
As the level of pelvic tucking-under decreases, you may progressively
decrease your foot spacing, as well - if you wish.

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Old 01-19-2007, 09:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Interesting. I remember noticing the same "tucking" by Buk on his deep squats at the last summit (he'll just love the fact that I pointed that out here).
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Mike Boyle addresses this in 'Designing Strength Training Programs and Facilities'

I won't copy paste the whole thing, but one he does say that athletes who tuck under should NOT be loaded until they develop enough flexibility.
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Flexibility where? Glutes/hammies? Would it be advisable to stretch those and see if it corrects the tucking?
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Most likely lateral hamstring. So that might help, although I don't feel 100% comfortable giving further advice.

Also, Mike Boyle recommends placing a 10lbs plate under the heels. He does not consider it to be a dangerous practice.

Just get the book and read it
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