pairing snatch grip deadlifts (with 25's instead of 45's so you gotta get your ass down there) with DB bulgarians using standard EDT protocol for 10 minutes, after ME manta ray box squats.
I hope I don't have to take a shit tomorrow cause I probably won't be able to sit on the toilet.
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pairing snatch grip deadlifts (with 25's instead of 45's so you gotta get your ass down there) with DB bulgarians using standard EDT protocol for 10 minutes, after ME manta ray box squats.
I hope I don't have to take a shit tomorrow cause I probably won't be able to sit on the toilet.
I pity the person who cleans your bathroom floor...
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Oh yeah, dont' want to start another thread, but another thing I thought was funny at the gym today. I'm in the aerobics studio warming up (the MM drills) cause it's the only place in the gym with enough space, and about halfway through some people start coming in for a spinning class. I'm getting some weird looks like usual during those drills, but then the instructor comes in and it looks likes she waiting on me to start the class. They're all ready to go when I get done and when I get up the instructor gets my attention (I'm wearing headphones) to ask if I'm joining the class. I politely say no but really wanted to say: "yeah, that's why I'm doing all these dynamic drills in multiple planes, preparing my joints and muscles for exercises in multiple ROM's, to perform the most repetitive pattern overload exercise ever!"
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Jason,
I have a question for you regarding your pairing of exercises. I'm still pretty new to EDT.
Aren't you supposed to do antagonists or unilateral if on the same part? Deep DL's with BSS's seem to both work the quad. Granted, the DL's are more hip dominant, but the quad is still very involved, unless you were doing them Romanian style, but you mentioned getting your butt down there.
I've been using EDT in my workouts for the last few weeks, and I love it. Now I'm looking for other creative combinations to do it with, hence my curiosity about your program.
Well, first off, the bulgarians I did were unilateral, back foot was elevated on a bench. But yes, pretty much all the stuff I've read on EDT (just the t-nation articles) has pairing antagonistic exercises, it's more efficient.
WARNING: What follows is my opinion and my interpretation of EDT, I have not read Charles' Muscle Logic book (yet), I'm taking my knowledge about traditional programming and training effect and applying EDT to it.
In my opinion, it depends on your goals and what type of programming you prefer. First, the basic system (antagonistic exercises) I believe is geared toward strength gains through a high power output for every rep of the set, due to lack of muscular fatigue because you're only doing sets of 5 with a 10RM. And it elicits size gains through a high total volume of work, a lot of reps can be done in 15-20 minutes. It also has a high metabolic effect because you can keep the intensity high due to the lack of fatigue because you're alternating muscles, as well as the fact that more muscle is being worked.
Another way to do it is to pair completely non-competing muscles together, like an upper body exercise with a lower body exercise. This can have the same effect as the antagonistic pairings, but I believe it has a greater metabolic effect because you can work two large muscles (i.e. pec major and glutes/hams) together, burning a ton of calories, as well as the fact that once again, you can keep intensity high cause you're alternating muscles. This is very similar to CB's turbulence system.
The way I referred to above, pairing two exercises using many of the same muscles, I'm using for pure size gains. Obviously not as much weight can be used due to the muscular fatigue, but it's a TON of volume for those muscles involved. Hence why I only went 10 minutes (that was PLENTY!), I'll keep working to be able to go longer. My main goal is still strength, but right now I'm very interested in gaining size (particularly in my legs). I do what Charles recommended on a Max Out Radio episode a while back, using EDT for assistance exercise in a basic westside template. I have a ME upper and lower body day, and a RE upper and lower body day, then after my first exercise, I use EDT for assistance work.
I don't use EDT every week. I just recently started this system, but the plan is to do EDT for assistance work for two straight weeks, then Undulating Periodization (high reps one day, low reps the next, alternating) for assistance work for two straight weeks, using the SAME exercises for all four weeks, then deload on the fifth week. I switch ME and RE exercise every week. Right now I'm doing the 2 upper and 2 lower days cause I've found I gain size better with more volume 2 times a week than less volume 4 times a week. But as my work capacity increases, and I believe it is increasing cause I'm not nearly as sore today as I thought I would be, and I want to transition into maintenance then fat loss, I'm going to switch over to 4 full body sessions a week and use EDT with non-competing exercises like I described above.
Not exactly sure if that's what you were looking for, but hopefully it helped.
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I just re-read the initial post and realized that I missed something that made my question really confusing.
I thought you were supersetting DLs with BSSs. You did your deep DLs, THEN you did EDT on your BSS. Now it makes sense. I have done those as well. They are ass-kickin' fo sho!
I just re-read the initial post and realized that I missed something that made my question really confusing.
I thought you were supersetting DLs with BSSs. You did your deep DLs, THEN you did EDT on your BSS. Now it makes sense. I have done those as well. They are ass-kickin' fo sho!
Sounds like a solid workout. I'm loving EDT!
No, I did the DL's with the bulgarians. Did that after ME manta ray box squats. Looked like this:
a) ME Manta Ray Box Squat
b1) Snatch Grip Deadlift
b2) Bulgarian Split Squat
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