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Old 12-10-2006, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So ive been told by numerous PLers to lay off on heavy deads for now, and since I Fed up my back today not listening, think maybe its for the best. My backyard sits on about a 45 degree hill for about 20 feet. Will up hill sprints help me out in the power department? Thinking of maybe loading up a BP with about 20 lbs or so and htting the hill when I get back to Orlando the first on jan.

Edit-im an idiot dont mind me. Geometry was not a good one for me.
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Old 12-10-2006, 06:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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no, probably not
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Will probally have little actual carryover..

But will increase your GPP which in turn in the future may let you workout harder and then have more progress...

Everything is conected somehow.

btw- 45 degrees hill is really damn steep.
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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just because you can run 10 miles doesn't mean that you will be able to lift for a longer period of time, or more weight.

if you're going for gpp, go for stuff that will have carryover. sled pulls to bring up weak points, band work, etc.
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Steve, what are you training for? PLing or another sport?

If you want to work on power for sport application then you should be doing Oly lifts, plyo, sled work etc... anyway not heavy DLs.

Would your back problems prevent you from doing any of these?
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If you want to work on power for sport application then you should be doing Oly lifts, plyo, sled work etc... anyway not heavy DLs.
nooooo why does everyone think this.

You can built 'explosive power' using deadlifts. Heavy deadlifts can have huge carryover in many aspects. Not to mention you could do them fast and get many of the benifits of olympic lifts without the neccesary technique.
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if he's going for explosive power, and wants to be a PLer, speed squats and deadlifts are lovely.

oly lifts don't have a good carryover to Pling for a lot of ppl. For pling, you try and get 3 lifts the highest you can get them, so it wouldn't make any sense to be doing cleans, snatches, etc.

But i agree on sled work, band work, etc for gpp.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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nooooo why does everyone think this.

You can built 'explosive power' using deadlifts. Heavy deadlifts can have huge carryover in many aspects. Not to mention you could do them fast and get many of the benifits of olympic lifts without the neccesary technique.
The main benefit of the Oly lifts is quadruple extenson, deads won't address this. Clean or snatch pulls are your best bet if technique is an issue.
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To address. No I am not training to be a powerlifter. I am just going to compete in one to see how it is. I am in no way going to make a "career" out of it. Its all supposed to be a learning experience. And as for the OL, out of the question. I have a bum SC joint and clean and their like give me more problems than anything else. My back is shot though, looks like this week is going to be rest week.
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The main benefit of the Oly lifts is quadruple extenson, deads won't address this. Clean or snatch pulls are your best bet if technique is an issue.
This is true. But 90% of the people I see doing olympic lifts are doing a deadlift->curl variety.
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This is true. But 90% of the people I see doing olympic lifts are doing a deadlift->curl variety.
Sad. This is why clean and snatch pulls should be the Oly-variation of choice for MOST of the population.
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Clean pulls.....
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Ive tried those.

But aaahem....

how do you do them without ummmmmm disrupting your member on the last part of the lift? Im serious!
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Boxer briefs.

Dos, what is quadruple extension?

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By training with quadruple extension we want to achieve hip, ankle, knee and back flexibility which will improve strength, power and lower the chance for injury.
Everything else google comes up with either has to do with algebra, camera angles, 'how to quadruple your current muscle gains!', and rehabilitating quadruple amputees
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Ive tried those.

But aaahem....

how do you do them without ummmmmm disrupting your member on the last part of the lift? Im serious!
VERY carefully

Actually, as you move into the back extension (more than she is showing on the clip) you will move back a bit from the bar and hopefully miss Mr. Winkie.

Matthew, you're right on with the quadruple extension quote.
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Awesome, thanks Dos!
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