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11-28-2006, 08:03 AM
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Realistic goal for vertical jump?
I decided I want to increase my vertical jump and I was wondering what is a realistic goal. right now im not sure what my vert is but I have had a good vert before and right now I am very un trainned, meaning I have not done any structure trainning in a long time.
My goal is 12 in in two years.
My plan was to build a good strength base, then start on plyos. If you want to see a plan I have not developed one yet. I am not a very hard gainer so I have no reason to believe I can't achieve this goal but I want to hear what you guys think.
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11-28-2006, 03:13 PM
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Yeah, it's realistic!
You want to improve your vertical jump right? I am wondering if you have ever heard of Kelly Baggett's Vertical Jump Bibe. I know of MANY people who swear by his training tecniques specifically for this purpose. His website is www.higher-faster-sports.com. He also has a bodybuilding manual that I personally swear by. If you wanna be fast he would be the way to go as well. Just go to his site and look it over if you haven't already. Good luck!!
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11-28-2006, 04:37 PM
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First things first. Measure your vertical jump. Use a vertech if you have access to one or chalk if you dont.
No one could even venture an educated guess whether it'd be possible to gain 12" unless you can give more information. But for most people I think that'd be shooting pretty high. I don't mean to sound discouraging though. Give it your best and I'm sure you'll be happy with the results.
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11-28-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jen Heath
You want to improve your vertical jump right? I am wondering if you have ever heard of Kelly Baggett's Vertical Jump Bibe. I know of MANY people who swear by his training tecniques specifically for this purpose. His website is www.higher-faster-sports.com.
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I was thinking the same thing. This is a Kelly Baggett question.
Does anybody who has the Vertical Jump Bible care to offer an answer? I know Tony G has it. (But, wow, he's never around anymore. Has anyone else noticed that?) Who else has it?
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11-28-2006, 06:02 PM
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I've read through most of the program and it seems very good. Kelly says that he improved his vertical 19". At 155 pages there is a lot of information and very little BS.
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11-29-2006, 07:45 PM
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Figure a couple of inches for every 10 pounds of fat you drop and a couple of inches for every 50 pounds you put on your squat.
Predictions can never be perfect but that's a pretty decent way to estimate it.
Plyos really don't do anything but increase your movement proficiency. Assuming you keep that constant the VJ improvements come from relative strength.
http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/articles.html
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11-29-2006, 07:52 PM
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Tap, Snap, Or Nap
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i have a question for you kelly, or any one really, is it true that when your VJ goes up your 40yd dash time goes down and vice versa? (told by the ever so qualified hs coach)
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11-29-2006, 10:42 PM
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NSCA Strength Coach of the Year
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you mean your 40 time improves or gets worse?
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11-30-2006, 10:57 AM
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Tap, Snap, Or Nap
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sorry, i mean if your VJ improves your 40 gets worse. should have been clearer.
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11-30-2006, 11:14 AM
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NSCA Strength Coach of the Year
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Haven't found that at all in all my years of testing. In fact, most of the time they both improve.
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HCC (Hartman-Cosgrove Certified)
Director of Speed, Strength & Conditioning
College of the Canyons, CA
http://www.canyons.edu/departments/pe/strength
"NO CHAMPION HAS EVER ACHIEVED HIS OR HER GOAL WITHOUT SHOWING MORE DEDICATION THAN THE NEXT PERSON; MAKING MORE SACRIFICES THAN THE NEXT PERSON; WORKING HARDER, TRAINING, AND CONDITIONING HIM / HERSELF MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON; ENJOYING HIS / HER FINAL GOAL MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON" -Doak Walker-
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11-30-2006, 12:27 PM
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Word on that. The only real differnce between the 40 and VJ is that the quadriceps contribute a bit more to the latter...but usually if one goes up the potential for the other to improve goes up as well.
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