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Old 11-23-2006, 11:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Try this workout and let me know how it went. using a treadmill you will do one minute sprints the workout will last twenty minutes
1st min set treadmill at 8.0-10.0 and run
2nd minute hop off treadmill rest
you will do this cycle without stopping the treadmill for twenty minute the total amount of running will only be 10 minutes
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uhhh.... isn't that essentially HIIT?
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah but it adds a sudden dangerous stop every minute
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i found this really cool new exercise with a twist.

you jump in shark infested waters, and then try and swim out of there as fast as you can without getting eaten.
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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dont knock it until you try it. Did you know that I have watched kids to professional athletes do this excerise and no one has gotten hurt
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Did you know that this is a very common method of exercise? I'd hazard a guess that about 80% of the people on this board do some form of interval training. Stopping suddenly after vigorous exercise is a pretty well documented "no, no" but don't take my word for it...do a little research and see what you come up with. It's much safer to vary the speeds from brisk walk to hard run.

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Old 11-24-2006, 07:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Good for you on your wonderful watching abilities.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i found this really cool new exercise with a twist.

you jump in shark infested waters, and then try and swim out of there as fast as you can without getting eaten.
HAHAHAHA. That would be very effective! IF you survived.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Uhhh.... isn't that essentially HIIT?

No. True HIIT wouldn't have you resting in between the sprints. What you would do is coast on the treadmill. Essentially speeding up for the sprints for around a portion of that 1-minute; slow down to coast for the rest of the minute - begin again.

Or, if you wanna do boxing rounds (which is what I do when I jump rope): intense for 3-minutes; coasting for 1-minute.
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No. True HIIT wouldn't have you resting in between the sprints. What you would do is coast on the treadmill. Essentially speeding up for the sprints for around a portion of that 1-minute; slow down to coast for the rest of the minute - begin again.

Or, if you wanna do boxing rounds (which is what I do when I jump rope): intense for 3-minutes; coasting for 1-minute.
Well pin a rose on your nose.

I said essentially. By that I meant "not exactly but fairly close." I apologize for not making that very clear. I am smarter than you think.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No. True HIIT wouldn't have you resting in between the sprints. What you would do is coast on the treadmill. Essentially speeding up for the sprints for around a portion of that 1-minute; slow down to coast for the rest of the minute - begin again.

Or, if you wanna do boxing rounds (which is what I do when I jump rope): intense for 3-minutes; coasting for 1-minute.
HIIT, doesn't have to be slowing down, it can be a stop.

As being an ex boxing coach, real boxing rounds are 3 on 1 off, but that means 1 minute of doing nothing to recover for the next round. So when I had my guys skipping, they were allowed to get water then go back and stand in their spot and wait for the bell.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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yeah but it adds a sudden dangerous stop every minute
Do you have proof? It is done all the time in lots of sports. Ie hockey, skate hard as you can for 1 minute then sit on the bench, same as football, hard for a few seconds, then stand on the sideline, boxing, etc.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well pin a rose on your nose.

I said essentially. By that I meant "not exactly but fairly close." I apologize for not making that very clear. I am smarter than you think.
^ is an overreaction on my part. Don't like being dismissed.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What I learned is that Active Recuperation is better..and that the Montréal Canadiens would do better if they had stationary cycles instead of benches ! (well.. better physically anyways.. but we all agreed that it would look crazy)


In xc-skiing and mountain hike.. I stop completely.. either to drink or because I just need to.. never had any problems with it.
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't doubt it...really...I don't.
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Do you have proof? .
He meant the jumping off a moving treadmill was dangerous...it was....a joke.

Incidentally an effort you can sustain for 3 min isn't really high intensity - that would be something that burned you out in 30sec or less. HIIT is based on the Tabata protocol which is 20secs on 10sec off. And four minutes of that is meant to leave you on the floor.

Longer periods are still interval training , and there is nothing wrong with that, but not really HIIT.

I occasionally do HIIT, but the mainstay of my energy system work is two or three minute rounds alternating bag work and skipping - as hard as I can for the first minute and last 10 seconds of every round. It's very demanding but not the same as HIIT.

Ps I have 2 and 3min boxing timers on MP3 if anyone wants them? With warning buzzers before the bell and at the one minute marks? I also have them with backing tracks if you want to risk my taste in music.
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Try this workout and let me know how it went. using a treadmill you will do one minute sprints the workout will last twenty minutes
1st min set treadmill at 8.0-10.0 and run
2nd minute hop off treadmill rest
you will do this cycle without stopping the treadmill for twenty minute the total amount of running will only be 10 minutes
I heard if you do it with your eyes closed it burns more cals.
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If you do this before breakfast it burns 520% more fat from you stomach then if you do it after breakfast. Also, dont eat after 5pm the previous day for best results.
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