Pyramid Reps

[dos]

Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

you know that a lot of oly lifts are based on technical form. It's not about brute strength. Like i said, there's a lot of PLers who got big, to the size they are, by doing 3s and 5s. it's what a lot have based their training on. They lifted heavy, and got big and strong.

Westside uses big lifts, and then accessory movements for reps. But you can't tell me that their huge tris and traps, and hams are build from doing 8-12 on tri extensions, and shrugs. It's mainly from the body adapting to heavy loads over a period of time.

I'm not saying that oly lifters don't lift heavy, but missing or making a lift a lot of times if because something in their form is flawed, and not about strength, correct?

I would very much so recommend something along the lines of 3-5 reps for core lifts for anyone who wants to gain size or stength in the experienced lifter over a 8-12 program.

Oly lifters, much like PL'ers do lots of singles, doubles, triples with heavy, heavy loads. If a OL'er can't front squat (usually for multiple reps) what he plans to clean and jerk, he is going to have problems so he better have adequate squat strength. Both popualtions will also do assistance work, OL'ers with things like good mornings, RDL's, presses etc. Often times these are done with higher volumes. The same goes for PL'ers with their assistance exercises. Just because they are doing 3-5's on their BP doesn't mean that they are doing that on their triceps or back exercises. Why wouldn't you think their 8-12's on their assistance work is not a big factor in their hypertrophy? Lastly, There is a big difference between a 'big' 148lb'er and a 'big' superheavyweight right? The 148'er can't afford to gain too much size but he sure as heck wants to keep gaining strength.

[shugga]

Dos,
When does your book come out?
No, but seriously, do you have one?

[dos]

Originally Posted by shugga

Dos,
When does your book come out?
No, but seriously, do you have one?

Late Spring 2007.....The Men's Health Book of Strength (Rodale books).

[shugga]

Originally Posted by dos

Late Spring 2007.....The Men's Health Book of Strength (Rodale books).

Awesome! Thanks.
To the OP, sorry for the thread hijack.

[Milko Georgiev]

Originally Posted by tonymcclellan

I was thinking that if Hypertrophy is best achieved around 8-12 reps and strength is 1-5 reps, then would a decreasing pyramid rep scheme be beneficial for both. I was thinking of taking one of my training days to rep scheme of 10-8-6-4 while increasing the load obviously. What are the thoughts on pyramids?

Take a look at this http://spiderstamina.com/

[tonymcclellan]

http://itransforum.com/showpost.php?p=5101&postcount=16


So here is the results from my first day of pyramids.

Nice read milko. Sofia huh, I was deployed there for two months in 2003.

[Alcoholiday]

Originally Posted by dos

Oly lifters, much like PL'ers do lots of singles, doubles, triples with heavy, heavy loads. If a OL'er can't front squat (usually for multiple reps) what he plans to clean and jerk, he is going to have problems so he better have adequate squat strength. Both popualtions will also do assistance work, OL'ers with things like good mornings, RDL's, presses etc. Often times these are done with higher volumes. The same goes for PL'ers with their assistance exercises. Just because they are doing 3-5's on their BP doesn't mean that they are doing that on their triceps or back exercises. Why wouldn't you think their 8-12's on their assistance work is not a big factor in their hypertrophy? Lastly, There is a big difference between a 'big' 148lb'er and a 'big' superheavyweight right? The 148'er can't afford to gain too much size but he sure as heck wants to keep gaining strength.

i think my head's going to explode if i think about this anymore. haha