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Waittz · 11-15-2006, 12:19 AM

If you dont know what I am talking about, hit up t-mag and check out the latest two articles. Curious as to what everyone here thinks works best for THEM. So which do you stick with, Full body, Upper/Lower Splits(can include movement pattern splits) or body part training?

Frank.S · 11-15-2006, 12:55 AM

Depends on application really..

Most of us here done need to focus to much on the small details that a body part split works.

My training is based around the 3 powerlifts I guess, but then I have an accessory day in there too.

Im under the impression it doesnt matter what method you use, just use one, and use it damn well. Eat good, lift heavy, keep coming back and its not going to matter if you worked you whole body that day or only the top half.

Waittz · 11-15-2006, 01:08 AM

Pretty sure we all are undr that impression. Just curios as to what peope do right now currently. I dont know how to make a poll.

gobbla · 11-15-2006, 01:52 AM

2x a week full body (just started back at it)
3x a week running

cappuccino · 11-15-2006, 06:30 AM

3x week full body
3x week targeted exercises

GG300 · 11-15-2006, 07:52 AM

2 x week Full Body EDT sessions
1 x week Upper Body Session with Trainer
3 x week running 5K training

Mahler · 11-15-2006, 07:54 AM

4x per week. 2 upper, 2 lower.
Running and maintenance work 2x per week.
1 day off.

Jason B · 11-15-2006, 08:04 AM

2 upper body days
2 lower body days

Some weeks are a pure westside template (with RE upper instead of DE upper, DE upper body never got me anything, maybe when I'm stronger). Other weeks I mix it up a little more with alternatings sets, supersets, etc. with a little higher reps if I need to gain size, as I do now.

Jeff Rage · 11-15-2006, 09:04 AM

Currently doing 3 Fullbody
I also do 2 Upper/2 Lower

raymond3 · 11-15-2006, 09:06 AM

3 Full body workouts, 3 times a week
3 Cardio sessions (2 hiit and 1 moderate), 3 times a week
1 day off

diamondpete · 11-15-2006, 09:45 AM

3X/week full body, I think that Alywn really covers it my reasons (or explains them to me might be more accurate) in his comments

1-2x/week martial arts (i would classify as HIIT)

2x/week sprints (chasing kids LOL- every Sat and SUnday!!!)

Lisa~ · 11-15-2006, 10:10 AM

3x/wk full body
3-4x/wk some type of energy system work
mobility and/or flexibility every day

jj · 11-16-2006, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahler

4x per week. 2 upper, 2 lower.
Running and maintenance work 2x per week.
1 day off.

One word:

In-de-struct-a-ble

rookie · 11-16-2006, 06:21 AM

I like full body since I am not training for anything specific. Seems that splits are of use to those with a good deal of experience and those with a need to train.

I am doing NEW RULES.

JimmyC · 11-17-2006, 12:53 AM

ive found that for me, very high frequency and very low volume works best for me (for both size and strength). i do fullbody 6x per week, each exercise 1 or 2 sets, staying well away from failure.
it was hard to get into at first, because you feel like you're barely working your muscles, but after seeing results i knew this was the route for me.
i made my routine after reading a lot about and basing it on bryan haycock's HST princples and pavel tsatsouline's strength and size principles.
since doing such high frequency work ive gained more strength and size and in a faster time than when doing a split, or even when doing a 3x/wk total body routine

Cynic · 11-17-2006, 02:18 AM

Is it possible to respond differently to different regimens?

When I was doing NROL FLI, I gained in strength, very little in fat loss.

When I was doing my push/pull split, I believe I gained in muscle, but not much, if any, in strength or fat loss.

jj · 11-17-2006, 02:21 AM

Doing BOM right now so it is usually a split, but I love it.

RedLefty · 11-17-2006, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynic

Is it possible to respond differently to different regimens?

It's inevitable. Your body will respond differently to different programs. And if you take one program that worked perfectly for you, it might not do much for someone else.

Lisa~ · 11-17-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynic

Is it possible to respond differently to different regimens?

When I was doing NROL FLI, I gained in strength, very little in fat loss.

When I was doing my push/pull split, I believe I gained in muscle, but not much, if any, in strength or fat loss.

Cynic, I'd like to suggest one possible explanation for the results in your particular case: technique correction. You have spent a lot of time recently working hard to correct technique in several of your lifts and to correct mobility issues in your joints. Making those corrections might have finally made the lifts you are doing effective, so you are seeing strength increases like a newbie sees no matter what program they are on. Just a theory and some food for thought.