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Old 01-15-2005, 04:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How many of you guys actually use dumbells in their routine. I almost never use them. It's just hard to get them in place. how the hell do you have to get the DB's in place with dumbell bench presses? and it also takes twice as long the load them [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I always you use dumbells for presses. Just lay back and press them up.
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Haven't touched a bench press barbell In almost 8 weeks now. Doing all dumbell work...If your doing incline press with dumbell use your knees to kick them up to you. I haven't done heavy one's with a flat press so I'm not sure how that would work.

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Old 01-15-2005, 06:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I use DBs for the flat press. You sit up, lay them on your thighs and kick up your knees as you lay back.

I do see some guys at the gym who have friends help them get the heavier ones up into position.
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Use power hooks to get them into position if you don't have a spotter to lift them into place for you (or kick them into place like some of the other guys said).

Personally, I use the fixed-weight dumbbells at the gym so I don't have to change weights for dumbbells - the disadvantage at the gym I usually go to is the dumbbells only go to 50lbs, so I have to use barbell above that.
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What is this bullshit about having a spotter lift the dumbbells for oneself into position because one isn't strong enough to hold onto them and press them up. Just get pissed off at something and do the damn thing. Get momentum as you're laying back and explode with that first rep and get those weights in the air and the first rep out of the way.

This reminds me of an old school Arnie story of when he was lifting in this shack of a gym in germany and had no incline bench (is he really going there with the old school arnold crap?, yes, yes i am). They leaned a board against the wall, power cleaned the weight, and fell back against the board and began. Those are some incline presses for you.
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Old 01-15-2005, 09:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like to use dumbbells because they employ more stabilizing muscles than barbells.
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Old 01-15-2005, 10:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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As well as treat muscle/limb imbalances!
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I usually use dumbells for incline and flat bench press. I just get some momentum and lift them up on my chest then lay down w/ them.
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Old 01-16-2005, 06:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I lift them up onto my hips and situp with them resting on my chest. As I lay back I pull them into my chest so that when I'm lying down they're basically resting on my chest where I want them to be.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You can add me to the list that uses dumbells much more than barbell for presses.
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Old 01-20-2005, 09:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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barbells suck for bench presses, your hands seem to want to come together during the pressing motion which barbells prevent
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I normally love to use db's, but lately I have been doing bench press with a 2" block on my chest to limit my range of motion to keep my chest strong, which I cannot do with db's.

In answer to the original question, you need to sit at the edge of the bench with the db's on standing on your knees. Kick them up one at a time as you lie back. They sort of "fall" into position. Press from there. You don't need a rack. That's the nice thing about DB's... you can drop them to the side if you get stuck. If you can't get into position to start your lift, its probably too heavy for you to be messing with anyway.
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I like DB's... it just feels like I get a better workout. I struggle a little getting 70lb DB's into position for the incline bench press though. [img]redface.gif[/img] Like others have said, I start with them on my knees and kind of kick them up as I start to lay back.
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I find if you kick them up with your knees at the same time, it is more balanced, at least for me...

If I press over 100lb DB's (which is rare), I try to have 2 people help me get them in position as you can get pretty tired just working them into a pressing position.

Has anyone used the powerhooks for DB's that hang off a supported bar?

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Old 01-20-2005, 10:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Oh one more thing... I workout with my wife and sometimes my daughter comes along... so when we use a bar we spent extra time changing the weights in and out for all 3 of us which is kind of a pain.
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:47 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Do you all think there is a difference in strength and/or hypertrophy gains as compared to a barbell press versus dumbbell press? As we are able to handle a larger load when using a barbell?
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:20 AM   #18 (permalink)
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maybe, maybe not I don't know

Looks like a lot of you use DB's and use the same way to get them in position. I usually hang clean(new verb?) them into position.
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:35 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I try to use DBs for presses, but I have two big issues:

My DB's are adjustable. When I drop them to the ground, I have to stop and fix them since the weights tend to slide off.

The second issue is that when I set them on my legs, they bruise because of the weight clips, etc.

I wish I had fixed DBs, but they are too expensive.
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Quote:
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Do you all think there is a difference in strength and/or hypertrophy gains as compared to a barbell press versus dumbbell press? As we are able to handle a larger load when using a barbell?
Barbell=larger loads, some balance and stability is created by the bar.

Dumbbells=smaller load than a Barbell, but you use more stabilizing muscles which is a great thing.

Best situation for gains would be a mix of Barbells and Dumbbells as you get the best of both worlds and both are equally important.
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