slow movement vs. explosive

[Simon.]

What is the difference between the 2 and what are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
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[Jean-Paul]

Check out this thread: http://forums.jpfitness.com/noncgi/u.../t/000016.html

[Simon.]

Ok so basically if I'm working strictly to get 'bigger' I shouldn't include explosive movements in my workouts because they have no use to me?
Well, what if someday I'll want to start playing some sport and I've been training with slow movement for a while, wouldn't it very difficult to develop speed?
I don't wanna get all big and slow, yet speed isn't THAT critical for me at the moment..
Also, before I started working at the gym I trained at a martial art that works mostly with legs (Taekwondo, if anyone knows what that is) so my legs are both pretty damn strong and fast..
Will training legs with slow movements completely destroy the speed I have right now and make it difficult for me to someday return to competing?
Please tell me if I'm getting any of this wrong ;[

[sean]

Originally posted by Simon Glumcher:
Ok so basically if I'm working strictly to get 'bigger' I shouldn't include explosive movements in my workouts because they have no use to me?
Well, what if someday I'll want to start playing some sport and I've been training with slow movement for a while, wouldn't it very difficult to develop speed?
I don't wanna get all big and slow, yet speed isn't THAT critical for me at the moment..
Also, before I started working at the gym I trained at a martial art that works mostly with legs (Taekwondo, if anyone knows what that is) so my legs are both pretty damn strong and fast..
Will training legs with slow movements completely destroy the speed I have right now and make it difficult for me to someday return to competing?
Please tell me if I'm getting any of this wrong ;[

There is a method for dealing with this.

It's called periodization, of which there are several varieties.

The gist of it is, you break your training into 6 week blocks(for example) where your training focuses on...

1) Improving some quality(max strength, power, endurance, body comp, hypertrophy...)

2) Not loosing to much of whatever quality you worked in your last training cycle.

There are about 500000000 articles available on as many websites discussing it, just put it in google and read yourself silly.

[BiggerThanYou]

Originally posted by Simon Glumcher:
Ok so basically if I'm working strictly to get 'bigger' I shouldn't include explosive movements in my workouts because they have no use to me?
Well, what if someday I'll want to start playing some sport and I've been training with slow movement for a while, wouldn't it very difficult to develop speed?
I don't wanna get all big and slow, yet speed isn't THAT critical for me at the moment..
Also, before I started working at the gym I trained at a martial art that works mostly with legs (Taekwondo, if anyone knows what that is) so my legs are both pretty damn strong and fast..
Will training legs with slow movements completely destroy the speed I have right now and make it difficult for me to someday return to competing?
Please tell me if I'm getting any of this wrong ;[

This is not true. Doing reps slow will not make you "bigger" than doing reps in an explosive style. TUT is not everything, as so many bodybuilders like to claim.

[BiggerThanYou]

"Of all the variables I’ve mentioned up to this point, you’re probably most surprised by this recommendation. Fast concentric tempos (the lifting portion of the movement) activate high-threshold motor units quicker than slow training. In fact, a trainee can achieve extremely high levels of tension within a muscle utilizing a very light load, if the speed of execution is fast enough. For further info on this statement, refer to Science and Practice of Strength Training by Vladimir Zatsiorsky.

Here’s a statement that I’ve learned to make with utmost confidence: I hate Super Slow training. Our bodies weren’t designed to perform slowly, so I don’t train it that way. I feel the future of training lies within extremely fast tempos.

But don’t read too much between the lines. I recommend that trainees execute tempos at varying speeds. Even though I usually prescribe a tempo as fast as possible, each load will mandate a different tempo. For instance, if I tell a trainee to lift a 3RM load as fast as possible, it'll be slow. If I tell a trainee to lift a 20RM load as fast as possible, it'll be very fast. Viola! One recommendation leads to different responses. Pretty cool, huh?

Bottom line: Perform concentric actions as fast as possible, and keep eccentric (negative) phases under control (1-3 seconds of lowering)."

Compliments of Chad Waterbury and T-nation. Chad is a strength and conditioning coach. In my mind, one of the best strength and conditioning coaches of all times.

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....4-068-training

[Hypertrophy]

Compliments of Chad Waterbury and T-nation. Chad is a strength and conditioning coach. In my mind, one of the best strength and conditioning coaches of all times.

I am a long time lurker and newbie poster here but just had to ask this question, "who has he coached?" Just wondering as I am interested in what constitutes being one of the greatest strength coaches of all time? T-Mag articles?

[Hypertrophy]

Still wondering about Chad Waterbury. What makes him such a great strength coach? Does he work with a team or several teams or something? I see a lot of t-mag rhetoric on his website so just wondering if the guy has actually done something, anything????