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01-16-2004, 05:40 PM
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Just Plain SENIOR
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Thought I'd start a new thread...
Okay, I had my body comp done today and here's the results:
Age: 49
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 212
% body fat: 19.55
Waist to Hip ratio: .85
I haven't found my info from when I had it done back in June of last year but I'm pretty sure I was at 16% BF. What would be a reasonable goal for March 27th? Think that getting back to 16% is doable or is that enough time to do even better? ... hopefully, I won't go the other way  because there are still more obstacles between now and then despite being past the holidays!
Oh, by the way, they used the three skin fold method for BF so it makes me wonder why the need to go to two decimal places... it's probably not that accurate!
Q
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01-20-2004, 11:40 AM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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Location: Indianapolis
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Reasonable? What do you want it to be and what are you willing to do?
3% body fat could take you as little as 3 weeks with some concentrated effort. I think with about 9-10 weeks you should do much better if you try.
BTW, Had a brain storm last night. I'm thinking about including the JP Fitness Team Push-up Challenge in my offerings. It is comprised of 2 man teams performing maximum push-ups (oh, and these won't be your Daddy's version of push-ups of course). The team with the highest combined total of "special" push-ups wins a FREE gift.
Is anyone MANLY enough to take the challenge (This will make "The Game" look like a quilting bee)
Bill
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01-20-2004, 11:56 AM
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I think, therefore I post
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I'm there!!! We need a new game anyway. I haven't been on a ball since the last retreat, much thanks to YOU Bill! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I have some special push-ups that I have my clients do... Maybe I can be up for them by then (shoulder-wise). But I love the idea. I'm all over it.
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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01-20-2004, 12:41 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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BTW Bill, have you ever seen the game being played?
http://www.inkdeep.com/jp/
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Jean-Paul Francoeur
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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01-20-2004, 02:12 PM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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Sorry, no quicktime on my computer.
Bill
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01-20-2004, 06:50 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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You can download a free version that will do the trick.
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Jean-Paul Francoeur
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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01-20-2004, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member
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Do we at least get a hint of what these special push-ups are?
BTW, uhh Bill, you wanna play "The Game" with me? I promise I won't beat you that bad.
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Or are you scared? 
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01-21-2004, 09:30 AM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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JP,
So who are the two skinny guys standing on the swiss balls?
[by the way, are you getting my emails?]
Bill
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01-28-2004, 11:11 AM
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I think, therefore I post
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Skinney huh? Maybe compared to the trainers in Indiana, where regular faucets have beer instead of water running through them! Looks like I am going to have to get you up on a ball. Time to pull out all your old Chek books from the closet. You may even have to give him a call for some tips. Just show him that link and tell you have to beat the guy on the right! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Jean-Paul Francoeur
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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01-29-2004, 08:47 AM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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JP and all,
How goes the body comp?
Bill
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01-29-2004, 09:23 AM
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I think, therefore I post
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hartman:
JP and all,
How goes the body comp?
Bill
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Uuuh... Heh! Yeah, that. Well.... 
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Jean-Paul Francoeur
www.jpfitness.com
http://forums.jpfitness.com
"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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01-29-2004, 01:28 PM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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Okay, fess up...what are the issues (not including running a growing business, a new baby, 2 small children, keeping the wife smiling, and trying to lose that "southern" accent)?
Have you been...training?
Bill
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01-29-2004, 02:53 PM
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Just Plain SENIOR
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hartman:
JP and all,
How goes the body comp?
Bill
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Don't know since I have no way to measure it but have been cutting my caloric intake. With the freakin back problems lately, I'm been a little limited but I've still been working out and changing my w/o toward more reps/fewer sets as opposed to the the other way around the past six months. Have also added basketball into the mix.
According to the belt-o-meter, it's going down slowly. I did have a conference last week and I did hang around the keg a little too long...  but, hey, it was Shiner Bock!!! You can't pass up keg Shiner Bock! 
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01-29-2004, 03:17 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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I have been training. I have a big race in April so I am running stairs at least once or twice a week. I am only doing about 41 floors up and 52 down so far, but I will step that up to 80 floors next month. I have also been doing the elliptical for about 45 min to and hour about 3 days a week. I am also rock climbing about once a week, doing about 10-15 routes over a period of an hour. My workout is very similar to the one you suggested in the injury forum, meshed with some suggestions by Josh Davis who has the luxury of being able to observe first hand my ranges of motion on various joints. I am in week 3 of full body workouts. The workouts aren't real heavy and although the weight will increase, I don't really intend to go heavy.
My wrist is much better, although I am reluctant to really push it. I went out and did 15 muddy miles on a trail last weekend and it was a little sore, but ice and some alleve and it felt better right away. My shoulder is fine, but I can sense that it is still very delicate, so I am not really pushing it on the weight. I did about 55 lb chest press yesterday (which I could probably chop out about 30 reps) for about 10 reps, with my arms at a 45-degree angle to my body as opposed to a "T" position, and it felt really good, no pain, but I can tell that there is no margin of error in my movement. I am working everything, but I am still not targeting my arms or shoulders specifically... They are just getting hit by me working these core exercises (chest press, one arm row, deadlifts, squats, RDL's). I am doing this for 6 weeks and then I will re-assess my situation and go from there.
Progress so far... I don't know if you recall, but my bf was pushing 20% (according to that LYING little machine) and my weight was 202 at the beginning of the year. I have not really changed my diet much, although I did cut the nightly 2-3 beers or glasses of wine. My current weight is 191 as of this morning, and my bf is exactly 18% (can't be... you can still see my abs and I don't really have lovehandles. I just don't get it!). I feel a lot better all around. My neck and upper back are also behaving. I think that I'm back, but it is going to be a long haul to get my bf back down to 10% or below.
This post is turning into a novel... Sorry.
So, on the challenge, I actually did get down on the floor the other night and popped out about 40 reps with no pain to the shoulder and only mild pain to the wrist, so I think I am going to be able to take on challengers in this new game. It will suck to not be the best at it though, like I am with the other game!
I have some interesting push-up variations that I do with clients that I want to try on all of you guys though.
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Jean-Paul Francoeur
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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01-29-2004, 03:26 PM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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JP,
Can you do scapular retraction/depression (sort of a chin up without the arm motion) on a chin bar without pain? If so, start working on isometric holds in that position for time...20+ seconds per rep.
That's the position the scapula should be in for pressing movements. It should help with those feelings of instability.
Bill
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01-29-2004, 03:40 PM
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Scooter
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hartman:
JP,
Can you do scapular retraction/depression (sort of a chin up without the arm motion) on a chin bar without pain? If so, start working on isometric holds in that position for time...20+ seconds per rep.
That's the position the scapula should be in for pressing movements. It should help with those feelings of instability.
Bill
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Ok, I'm lost, Bill!! Sort of a chin up without the arm motion?? Can anyone explain this to me? I'm kind of in a smiliar situation that JP is in regarding shoulder problems.
Thanks!
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01-29-2004, 03:54 PM
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Bill Hartman Certified
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You just pull with shoulder blade motion not with the arms. Try to squeeze them down and back like a set-up for the bench press.
Bill
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01-29-2004, 04:08 PM
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Scooter
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