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Old 01-08-2004, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just used that as an excuse to not go train. Yet again. I am a fat slob. My pants are all tight and I can't stop eating.

Help. Abuse welcomed. Encouraged, actually. I need to be accountable to someone and get off my fat ass and workout regularly again. (I think I caught this disease from JP )
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AAACK!!! Its CONTAGIOUS!

So sorry Q.

If it makes a difference, I have started back, and I finally starting to get motivated again. Maybe we should have a little competition. This one can't be as public as the one I started on MH last January. I am such a fat slob I cannot POSSIBLY let my photos be viewed in public. But maybe we could exchange fat slob "before" photos via email and challenge eachother to get back on the program. What do you think? Think you can take the champ? Personally I think with the way I have felt in the last two days (finally not hurting everywhere) that I'm going to smoke ya! That's right. You heard me... You're goin' down!
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do we need a JP Fitness Retreat 2004 Fat Loss Challenge to kick start the motivation?

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The retreat is good motivation.
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Kaiser... You better get on it. I can tell I am back in my groove. I am going to get in the best shape of my entire life! Don't want me to smoke you in this little meltdown competition do you? Don't want me to have to drag you around through all those mountain bike trails, do you?

Yes, RoboJP will prevail while Kaiser will show up looking more like this:

If, of course, he doesn't get off his duff and get motivated. Come on brother, you got to on this train with me! Let's get real fit together!
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Old 01-10-2004, 12:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just replied to JP's post on this same topic. Is this a mano y mano challenge or is it open? Are there stakes? How about steaks? How about bonus points for old guys!

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You are certainly welcome to join our little challenge. Hm, I wonder what the stakes should be?

Actually, I haven't even heard from Kaiser on this guantlet having been thrown down. I think maybe he is afraid of me, and rightfully so, 'cause this doughboy is going to be a turgid, ripped up animal by the time he gets here!
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Perhaps you could document your progress and present it at the retreat? [don't forget the before pics where you slouch and push your gut out in bad lighting to make your after pics look that much better]

Of course, you'll have to give your program a really cool testosteroni.net-ish name like "From Doughboy to USDA Prime Grade A Lean Beef", "Fat folds to centerfold", "Unleashing the Wild Francoeur Within", "Super-Overload-Bomblasting-Melt-off Training XVII"...or not (someone call Bill Phillips' marketing guy, please!)

I myself am working on the "Thin-Fast Pizza Diet" based on the original Slim-Fast Plan. A pizza for breakfast, a pizza for lunch, and a sensible pizza for dinner. Of course, there are no in-between-meal snacks. That would be silly.

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P.S. Sorry, I'm functioning on little sleep Would you care to outline your "plan of attack"?

P.P.S. The use of the word turgid always makes me a tad uncomfortable
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Old 01-12-2004, 11:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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P.P.S. The use of the word turgid always makes me a tad uncomfortable
Perhaps because turgid refers mostly to plants and vegetables? =P
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\Tur"gid\, a. [L. turgidus, from turgere to swell.] 1. Distended beyond the natural state by some internal agent or expansive force; swelled; swollen; bloated; inflated; tumid; -- especially applied to an enlarged part of the body; as, a turgid limb; turgid fruit.

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Old 01-12-2004, 01:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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There's also--

tumefacient
tumefaction
tumefy
tumescence
tumescent
tumid,

as in "tumid political prose."

Now for some names of the third generation of pills for erectile dysfunction, after levitra and cialis....tumagra? tumitra?

Or use all the above words in a sentence?

"The porn that comes unsought to our e-mail is more than slightly tumefacient." And so on.

Wonder if it's possible to get all these words in a single sentence?

BTW, the holiday baking in my house that started in November has been abdominally tumefacient, left me with a tumescent tummy. Now I must find a way to detumefy.
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Old 01-12-2004, 03:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Of course, you'll have to give your program a really cool testosteroni.net-ish name like "From Doughboy to USDA Prime Grade A Lean Beef", "Fat folds to centerfold", "Unleashing the Wild Francoeur Within", "Super-Overload-Bomblasting-Melt-off Training XVII"...or not (someone call Bill Phillips' marketing guy, please!)
YOU CRACK ME UP!!! Does this get better when you're sleep deprived???
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Old 01-13-2004, 11:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Why JP would you be refering to these photos?

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jpf....com/jpfitness
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What photos?

BTW, where has Kaiser been on this thread? Still waiting for an answer on this challenge!
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Old 01-13-2004, 03:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Why these photos of course:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...93&mode=&idx=0

You didn't think you'd get away that easy did you?
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Old 01-13-2004, 04:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Ok, it seems to me that since I'm closest in distance to LR, I'll have to make a trip to JPFitness VERY soon to oversee the picture taking extravaganza to be sure that JP isn't cheating.... And, perhaps, even though I'm totally out of shape as well, I might even be able to put him to shame in this current state.

So, JP what is your plan of attack to exit the mundane lifestyle of couch potato and re-enter the fascinating world of fitness? We're all ears. Of course, we don't expect you to disclose any trade secrets since we wouldn't want Kaiser to find out and get the jump on you, if that's even possible. From his description, he sounds like a great ad for "gravity".

Speaking of Kaiser, since you're ballooning up nicely on us, have you had the tire pressure checked lately on your car? All that extra weight might be reducing your gas mileage. Besides, don't you want to extend the life of your car's shock absorbers as well? I'd also have your bike checked for stress cracks. You know those things are only rated to carry around so much weight.

Now, about this little competition. I'm certainly waiting to hear what the steaks are.

Oooopps, sorry for the typo, it's getting close to dinner time!
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Ha Ha, Wauhawk... Veeeery clever. Yes, I will get you for this, you must realize. I do so hope you plan to attend the retreat. I have someone who really REALLY wants to play "the game" with you!
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Sorry JP it's just not fitting into my cash flow to travel much of any where at this time in my life. However if I'm ever down your way I plan to stop in and let you show me around.
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JP, I'm here. Thanks for the challenge, although competing with you in anything but cycling (and even that) seems a futile effort. You are a driven man.

Bill, my plan of attack is simply to follow my plan. Eat sensibly without binging - I don't even need to eat 'clean' to lose the fat, as much as I need to stop binging - and get into the goshdarn gym! On that front, I've been doing well for the last 3 days, and once I get on a roll, it tends to stay that way.

Not as an excuse, but we've just closed on a new house and have yet to sell our old one, and so fixing up the new house for us and showing the old one is taking about all my time (you can see that I hardly post anymore [img]smile.gif[/img] ).

Anyway, I've been eating the kcal level that I need to and yesterday really kicked it up in the spin class I took (of course, it could have been the substitute intructor, a knockout tall and vivacious blonde ).

To formalize my progress: I'm at 172.5 lbs (down from 174) @ ~20% BF and need to get to 165-167 @ 14% BF so that my 30" waist jeans can fit me comfortably again. [img]smile.gif[/img] That's a 12 lb fat loss and a gain of 3 lbs LBM. My goal is to do it in 3 months.
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Kaiser this should help.


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Ahh, yes. Chicago girl does good.

These motivate me a little more though - if I could just look like the guy in the photoshoot. [img]smile.gif[/img] She is one very in-shape woman.



And for those that want more (I'm not posting the image, just the link, so as not to offend anyone): http://www.bethhorn.com/galleries/Ma...ster0003_2.jpg
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Actually Kaiser, I am exactly the same way. I don't really have to eat too clean. I just have to cut the binging. Once I get active I can pretty much eat what I want and stay around 12%. I just weighed in though, and measured my body fat. Just to show how truly humble I really am I am going to post the results right here. This is tough for me too.

Right after the new year I weighed in at 202. That wouldn't be a big deal since I weighed that last year at 12% bf, but this year I had burst out a pair of pants that were baggy last year. I have worked out a few days, and sorta cleaned up my diet (haven't binged) and I weighed in at 194 exactly, and my bf was.............. (drum roll) ...................

18.4% !!!!!!!!!!!
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I hear ya' brother. Last year, my 30" jeans fit nice and loose (needed a belt), and my 'fat' jeans (34" waist) were WAY too baggy. This year, I can squeeze into the 30" jeans (no belt needed) and my 34" almost fit me without a belt (thank God they are still a little loose). Ugh. It is a double wammy being 5'9" (OK, 5'9-1/2" for you and I ) and being that heavy because you look even shorter.

Like Covert Bailey used to say, you're either fit or fat. Time to get fit.
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First of all, I haven't had a 30" waist since I was in highschool. I would wager that even if I got down to 6% bf I would still have to wear at least a 32 or 31. I wear a 34 now!
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JP, do you have a bf% goal? How 'bout you K?
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You are certainly welcome to join our little challenge.
The scales have been in the laundry hamper for months... weight hasn't been my yardstick most of the past year. However, I did weigh at the gym today 'cause I just couldn't stand it. 212. I was 16% BF back in June of '03 but the pants have been feeling tighter since then. I just emailed the person who did my body comp last time to see if she could do it again... probably won't be until school starts. Problem is, I just got over the back injury (mostly) and have a conference next week. I know what happens at this conference... and it rarely enhances my fitness!
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JP, do you have a bf% goal? How 'bout you K?
Umm...yeah. I, uh, stated it above. Down to 14% by April. The lowest I've ever been able to get is 10%, but that was when that was my goal...now I'm more concerned about performance on the bike in the summer, so wherever it ends up when I'm riding is good for me.

(PS: As I get older, it seems my BF% goal gets higher and much less important vis a vis overall health.
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