I read at about 20-something different forums, and I am beginning to notice something that really disturbs me. BAD ADVICE! Someone who knows absolutely NOTHING about fitness asks questions and they are answered by an equally ignorant person. There is nothing wrong with asking advice, but jeez, there should be some kind of etiquette with answering these, like qualifying yourself. Instead people just spout nonsense as known fact. On one forum corrected someone's bad advice to another on a nutrition related topic, and the guy who had authoritatively answered the guys question literally asked, "what's a carbohydrate?" Another guy told someone who did not have a bench to use a bed for heavy dumbbell chest presses! More and more I see people preaching pilates to football players or other athletes (hell, even magazines do that). Last Saturday I saw a woman on the Early Show giving horrid advice. For myself, more and more I find myself sticking with the guys in here. Occassionally I see some good advice at T-mag, when they aren't being elitist roid-raging freaks. Of course, MH has been a regular spot for me, although there aren't too many resident experts. The sharpest experts over there tend to post in here pretty frequently anyway. For whatever reason we seem to have become a meeting place for some serious fitness knowledge.
Have any of you run into this? Any horror stories out there?
jp, i participate on many forums also. the responses that make me do this are along the lines of:
"that's not how arnold did it"
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They get a program that lasts 74 weeks, and this week calls for a protocol of four sets of seven partial quarter arm extensions with an L-bar twist doing a 12-0-9 tempo with 32.9% of their projected monthly three rep max. Daniel John
That's one of the reasons I don't visit MH much anymore - how many people have been around over there since they changed the software and still only have 700 posts! - the other is the sheer volume. I don't want to be one of those people giving advice on stuff I'm not qualified to give advice on. Of course, there are other reasons to participate... but the tempation is still there to go beyond simply "this works for me."
Over here, I have next to nothing to contribute except for my own questions and examples of what not to do!. Maybe the greatest thing a person can learn is to question the advice given; over here, these folks can back it up!
I'm not suggesting that it is not hard by any stretch. Its just that it isn't "sport specific" like the article was trying to portray. It was yet another "build your 'core' muscles and be better at your sport, no matter what it is" article. As I read it I could sense Bill (who has been absent for quite a while recently ) rolling over in his future grave.
Basically, it's where you laugh at group exercise classes so hard that you get a training effect in your "core" musculature that will transfer to any sport!
Bill-ates. HAHAHAHAHAHA. That's great. Although, I don't know if I'll take that class. I sent my $1,467.83 check in to get the H.A.R.T.M.A.N. test and it never showed up.
Ryan, anti-H.A.R.T.M.A.N. Enterprises
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More jobs? How about less people?
This is not from a forum... but several of my friends go to a local private women's gym where the owner tells women that they shouldn't ever run (at any distance or speed) because they'll get big muscular legs and look unlady-like!
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Sandra (aka Erika\'s Las Vegas friend)
Yeah, I've found forums such as this misleading so now I stick to my 80's collection of leather-bound M&F
Seriously though, its rarely worth even checking the training section of T-rag anymore. I've become a bonafide JP forum convert (sorry I've rarely much to contribute).
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Working "hard," or the perception of working hard, doesn't really mean anything. Sweating, vomiting, and breathing hard could be a good workout or a tropical disease kicking in.-Dan John
I'm a big fan of this forum right now--in fact, it's probably my favorite.
The reasons:
*Good advice from qualified experts. And even if people don't agree, pretty much everyone is basing their advice on sound logic, research, or experience with clients. (Not just, "I do this, it works" crap.)
*Good questions and gracious posters, regardless of training experience.
*No spammers (I probably shouldn't have said that.)
This reminds me a little bit of how Supertraining used to be, although it's not as strong as it once since the passing of Mel Siff.
JP, this is probably my favorite forum to read and learn about fitness. Granted, I may not participate much because most guys here know a hell of a lot more than I do about fitness. The questions are real and the responses are usually very deep. (I'm disregarding "BILL-ATES"....hehehehe). I'm gonna try this year to learn even more so I can participate more in these forums.
Thanks for making this a very knowledgeable place!
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I am a big fan of this forum and I know what all you guys are talking about. I almost never visit the t-mag forum anymore, I still love the mag, but the forum is crap. I still go to MH quite a bit, it must be sentimental value, who knows. I also frequent the Rugged mag forums a lot. They have a bunch of seriously smart guys like this forum.
I totally see where JP is coming from with the crappy advice. It gets pretty bad on MH sometimes, and I see it all the time at college. More and more I am using this forum and rugged as places to go to escape the idiocy.
Danny
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Thanks for the props Danny. Now that you are coming to LR you are going get some great advice straight from the source, and not off a computer screen from some anonymous faceless posters!
I hang out in the MH forum to address some of the issues of bad advice and call them out on it. For instance, some kid told a guy to take a broom and start twisting to lose the love handles.
I lurk in this forum, but since I havent had any injuries and think I know what Im doing, I dont really ask too many questions.
Same thing at the rugged forum. Its a very high quality site and I love their training log section. I post my log over there. Ive thought about posting it here but there really isnt a space for that and I dont want to clog up the training section.
Mike Meijia has started a forum at his site but its still very new and thus pretty dead.
Id post in it. It might give people some direction and the experts could give advice on them. Im not sure how it would do here, youd have a better knowledge of traffic and stuff than I do.
I think creativity is key. We'd have to see routines of interest or at least something with a clear cut goal. Check out the rugged site and see how they set theirs' up and the types of routine that hit that crowd.
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It's so funny this is here, today. I came over here because I just couldn't take it anymore. I was at ANOTHER frequently visited site and there was this kid there that I thought I had given some good information. I had a link to Homegrown Muscle as a decent place to get started lifting, clean eating as a way to figure out what to eat, fitday to track calories, etc.
So he posts his solution: He went out and bought a speedo and he's going to start eating more pasta and broccoli. Sometimes the advice is good, and the person just doesn't get it.
BTW--I love this forum, too. It's like a voice of reason in the savage jungle. Words cannot describe how much I appreciate this place right now.
quote:Originally posted by Jean-Paul: I have thought about creating a training log section of this forum. Do you think many people would actually use it?
Not as much as the old Politics Forum! [/quote]So TS, would YOU post in there? I know you really miss that forum... You are probably "Lenny". No, you can't be... You would choose a much more creative name, wouldn't you?
are along the lines of:
Maybe the greatest thing a person can learn is to question the advice given; over here, these folks can back it up!
) rolling over in his future grave.
....not mentioning any names GQAG..... 
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