Testing Positive - JP Fitness Forums

fayman · 08-07-2006, 11:32 AM

Alright, I know this has been posted 10,000 times before, but I have to get it off my chest.

A few minutes ago I was mixing up my Metabolic Drive in our lunch room, and a coworker walks in and says "Don't go testing positive!"

So, as always, this sends me on a 10 minute rant as to what I'm REALLY drinking and why he can find the same type of protein in just about any food he eats.

Why the hell do we always have to defend ourselves for eating healthy?

I also have another coworker who commented that she worried about my health because I was taking creatine. It is a steroid, after all!:p

Rant over.

jruck37 · 08-07-2006, 12:12 PM

That's why I mix my supershake before I come into work.

UpNorth · 08-07-2006, 12:13 PM

Just tell them they better watch what they're asking about or your not sure what might happen. You know, with the 'roid rage and all...

GG300 · 08-07-2006, 12:16 PM

I always ask them if they have read the label on there frozen lunch entree and if they can explain half of what the ingredients in their lunch are. At least I know what is in my protein drink.

Keith Scott · 08-07-2006, 12:30 PM

I just play along and really freak them out.

"yea, I know........I will be careful.............If I got caught with this stuff, I would be locked up and lose my job!!" "Protein is so illegal and bad for you, I already got my fix this morning eating my 4 egg omlete." "Did you have any protein today??, if you did, be careful"

That kind of thing

Depending on the tone you say it with, they usually get the point and leave you alone.

Frank.S · 08-07-2006, 12:36 PM

Well.. Players in the NCAA are testing possitive for use of muscle milk lately. And im serious.

fayman · 08-07-2006, 12:40 PM

I forgot to mention that the guy was the manager who arranges all of our drug testing here!

I threw in the comment that the brand of PP I was using was the same as the brand our company president uses (he's an avid cyclist). So, hopefully he thinks our president is a juicer, too.:p

It just never ends. I guess I should know better by now.

Frank, where did you hear that these guys were testing positive for MM?? I gotta check that out!

Frank.S · 08-07-2006, 01:13 PM

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=43788&tid=

Read it on here. Not sure how true it is but it sounds suspicious.

Keith Scott · 08-07-2006, 01:18 PM

There is actually a protein limit in the NCAA with their athletes. Basically you as an athlete can take what you want...but the school cannot give out or supply protein that has over 30 grams (number may be off, its been a while since I saw the document) per serving. Bars, or shakes included.

Not sure if this has anything to do with the article, but that is all I can think of.

EDIT: Here is some info that I found

"If a supplement fits into one of the categories, the next step is determining the percentage of its calories that come from protein. By rule, no more than 30 percent of calories can come from protein, a figure that the association says represents a calories-from-protein ratio comparable to a typical balanced meal. Wilfert also notes that protein ratios above 30 percent are frequently found in muscle-building and weight-gain supplements.

A supplement that fits an accepted category and falls below the protein limit must also meet one more test: It may not contain any banned substance, or any ingredient specified by the NCAA as impermissible (to see the most up-to-date list of impermissible ingredients, go to www.ncaa.org and search for “impermissible supplements”). The list includes several popular supplements and compounds considered to be performance enhancing, such as ginseng, tribulus, and ginkgo biloba. It also includes protein powders, because any product with added protein from artificial, non-whole-food sources—often referred to on a label as a “protein blend” or “proprietary protein”—cannot be distributed. Products that contain added amino acids or amino acid chelates are also impermissible."

Frank.S · 08-07-2006, 01:18 PM

Upon looking at it a bit further. If musclemilk is infact testing possitive it is due to the "bovine colostrum" in it.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...bov_0082.shtml

Other substances found in bovine colostrum include casein, lactoferrin, alpha-lactalbumin, beta-lactoglobulin, and the growth factors insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1), insulin-like growth factor-2 (IGF-2), transforming growth factor beta (TGFbeta) and epidermal growth factor (EGF).

IGF-1, Bingo.

GqArtguy · 08-07-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank.S

Upon looking at it a bit further. If musclemilk is infact testing possitive it is due to the "bovine colostrum" in it.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...bov_0082.shtml

Other substances found in bovine colostrum include casein, lactoferrin, alpha-lactalbumin, beta-lactoglobulin, and the growth factors insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1), insulin-like growth factor-2 (IGF-2), transforming growth factor beta (TGFbeta) and epidermal growth factor (EGF).

IGF-1, Bingo.

So thats how muscle milk gets you hyooge!

Frank.S · 08-07-2006, 09:05 PM

That NCAA protien ratio is very dumb.

So I cant drink protien powder.. But if it came mixed with juice or something then it would be fine do to the sugar in the juice..

Kevin Larrabee · 08-07-2006, 09:10 PM

Test possitive for being able to kick your co-workers ass.

Jason B · 08-07-2006, 09:32 PM

Just shows how freakin' naive and hypocritical our society is. We value the skinny body with the 'six pack' but anybody that eats healthy or uses any supplement is on roids. We're all aware of the child obesity epidemic but they're are school districts that don't allow protein supplements but have vending machines filled with candy bars and soda, and serve fried food for lunch. Somehow there's nothing wrong with bringing donuts or McD's to work, but protein shakes are unhealthy.

Alcoholiday · 08-07-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank.S

Upon looking at it a bit further. If musclemilk is infact testing possitive it is due to the "bovine colostrum" in it.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...bov_0082.shtml

Other substances found in bovine colostrum include casein, lactoferrin, alpha-lactalbumin, beta-lactoglobulin, and the growth factors insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1), insulin-like growth factor-2 (IGF-2), transforming growth factor beta (TGFbeta) and epidermal growth factor (EGF).

IGF-1, Bingo.

dude, they're not testing postitive. Read the article again. Defranco said,

"I asked him if they actually said "Muscle Milk" or did these kids get busted for steroids and then they just tried to place the blame on a supplement...he told me that they were told they were actually suspened for drinking Muscle Milk!!"

it doesn't say anywhere that they tested positive for anything. It just says the NCAA suspended them for drinking it. They probably believe that it's a steroid or something, and suspended them for it.

Alcoholiday · 08-07-2006, 10:47 PM

if someone said something like that to me, i would just tell them to shut the hell up and keep eating their crappy microwave dinners.

Frank.S · 08-07-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

dude, they're not testing postitive. Read the article again. Defranco said,

"I asked him if they actually said "Muscle Milk" or did these kids get busted for steroids and then they just tried to place the blame on a supplement...he told me that they were told they were actually suspened for drinking Muscle Milk!!"

it doesn't say anywhere that they tested positive for anything. It just says the NCAA suspended them for drinking it. They probably believe that it's a steroid or something, and suspended them for it.

I just assumed. What, they got caught drinking it 'red handed' ? haha.

Cynic · 08-07-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

it doesn't say anywhere that they tested positive for anything. It just says the NCAA suspended them for drinking it. They probably believe that it's a steroid or something, and suspended them for it.

That doesn't give me a whole lot of faith in the leadership.

Lisa~ · 08-08-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason B

Just shows how freakin' naive and hypocritical our society is. We value the skinny body with the 'six pack' but anybody that eats healthy or uses any supplement is on roids. We're all aware of the child obesity epidemic but they're are school districts that don't allow protein supplements but have vending machines filled with candy bars and soda, and serve fried food for lunch. Somehow there's nothing wrong with bringing donuts or McD's to work, but protein shakes are unhealthy.

Harboring a little anger on this subject are you Jason?

Just teasing. I agree with you.