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07-18-2006, 08:26 PM
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Don’t Gauge Your Results on Physique
New article up on www.thefitcastmag.com
I would like to know what you think, and maybe you yourself or you know a friend who can relate to this article.
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07-18-2006, 08:52 PM
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Its all simple
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Nice artile Kevin, its easy to forget about all that stuff, when your focussed on buldging biceps and ript abz
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Along with number six, you will get to be a part of your children’s and other family member’s lives.
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this should be reason alone, for people to get off their butts
and not to mention influence your childrens lives so they grow up with a healthy lifestyle from day 1
Mark
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07-18-2006, 09:04 PM
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thanks MP,
It's something that I don't think enough people at the gym understand.
So I cam glad someone can understand what I am trying to say.
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07-18-2006, 09:12 PM
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Its all simple
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Its something that a lot of people out of the gym dont consider either,
alot of people (family included) when they discover i lift weights, the first question is always "why do you want to look like a bodybuilder"
its an unfortunate sterotype, and they just dont see the big health picture
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Current Lifts- BW = 190lbs
- Deadlift = 400lbs
- Squat = 243lbs
- Bench = 237lbs----->>>Now 253lbs (half way through)
- Chinup 3rm = 223lbs
- Broad Jump = 85 inches
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07-18-2006, 09:37 PM
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If you see me doing an isolation movement.. Then yeah its for physique! But thats about it.
I agree that you cant be to concerned about your physique. But in my opinion, if your dieting, it should probally be your goal. I mean, why else would you diet down to say below 12%? Im sure a person at 8-10% is no more healthy then someone at 12.
I cant say I dont ever lift/diet/eat for physique. Its defenatley a huge factor of why I lift. Anyone who says otherwise I think is kidding themselves a little bit.
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07-18-2006, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank.S
If you see me doing an isolation movement.. Then yeah its for physique! But thats about it.
I agree that you cant be to concerned about your physique. But in my opinion, if your dieting, it should probally be your goal. I mean, why else would you diet down to say below 12%? Im sure a person at 8-10% is no more healthy then someone at 12.
I cant say I dont ever lift/diet/eat for physique. Its defenatley a huge factor of why I lift. Anyone who says otherwise I think is kidding themselves a little bit.
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I understand that. I am saying those things because people who are busting their asses and not getting to that 8-10% BF sometimes come to the point where they will say, "F-This, it is not working." So what I was trying to say is that you have to look at what lifting and exersise gives you besides ripz abs.
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07-18-2006, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Larrabee
I understand that. I am saying those things because people who are busting their asses and not getting to that 8-10% BF sometimes come to the point where they will say, "F-This, it is not working." So what I was trying to say is that you have to look at what lifting and exersise gives you besides ripz abs.
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Could never disagree with that.
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But I do think anyone (or at least males) can have 'ripz abs' with enough dedication if that is truely their goal.
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07-18-2006, 09:55 PM
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One exception is Ballantyne's assessment of the elliptical.
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So why doesn’t the elliptical work? Because you just don’t do as much mechanical work as you do when you run or cycle. Basically, it’s just easier and less effective. Getting your heart rate up is not the key determinant of fat loss.
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The same is true of treadmills. With the ground sliding out from under you, you're not required to push off and forward from the ground as much. How about an exercise bike? Are you actually propelling your body mass through space? On a stepper, doesn't the step decend so you're not applying the same amount of force you would climbing real stairs?
Now, take an elliptical with a resistance range from 1-20. Set it to 15 or higher. You're going to be working! Get a model w/ solidly built synchronized arms and you can emphasize the upper body for 1/2 your workout.
I've worked on an LifeFitness elliptical and tried a really high setting, between 15 and 20. You're earning your fat loss in that range!
IMO, the only two good cardio machines are rowers and ellipticals, with the caveat that you need to set the resistance to the upper 25-33% to really make an elliptical effective.
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07-19-2006, 05:26 AM
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This is what it's all about:
5. You would be one of the few to successfully run away from Godzilla?
That bastard is a menace....
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07-19-2006, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
This is what it's all about:
5. You would be one of the few to successfully run away from Godzilla?
That bastard is a menace....
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Yeah, and he was seriously kickass in these one:
Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack
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"Eat your god**** vegetables you little ****!" -- My Mom
"Eat...those...vegetables...or I'll RAM THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT!!!" -- Joan Crawford, AKA Mommy Dearest, AKA The Wirehanger.
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07-19-2006, 07:02 AM
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Good article. I think it's extremely common for guys to only feel they are progressing once they see their pecs or biceps getting bigger. I, and many here, have certainly been victim to that. If you are realistic though, after some time you will get your mind around it. Sure my muscles have grown but my posture is better than ever, I am stronger, healthier and I have more energy. I do consider myself in the best shape I have ever been but that involves more than just 'looking' the part. You have to feel it too.
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07-19-2006, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank.S
I cant say I dont ever lift/diet/eat for physique. Its defenatley a huge factor of why I lift. Anyone who says otherwise I think is kidding themselves a little bit.
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I started lifting for strength and sport performance. I still mainly lift for strength and performance, but the physique that came along with it has been a nice bonus 
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07-19-2006, 11:52 AM
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Great article Kevin sometimes we forget about the changes that we have made a daily part of our lives and how those changes have impacted us and others. They are all good points but there are days when I am not sure that 6.5 is a positive thing. Look forward to more great articles.
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07-19-2006, 01:29 PM
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Great article. Very mature perspective and an excellent reminder during beach season of the real reason why we should be hitting the gym.
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07-19-2006, 01:44 PM
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Nice article Kevin. I didn't realize how much I have learned from people here untill this week. I'm in SD on business and found a gym I can use. Its the first time I have been in a gym not my own for over 6 months, and the first time I have been in one with personal trainers in about 6 years. listening to the trainers there work with people I just can't believe they get paid to spew that stuff.
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07-19-2006, 04:32 PM
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Thanks for all the comments, glad I got the point across.
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07-19-2006, 04:51 PM
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Power to the pedals!
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Ronnie Coleman doesn't agree with the title of your article and is going to come over to kick your @$$ as soon as he is doing canoodling with JP. :p
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07-20-2006, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank.S
I agree that you cant be to concerned about your physique. But in my opinion, if your dieting, it should probally be your goal. I mean, why else would you diet down to say below 12%? Im sure a person at 8-10% is no more healthy then someone at 12.
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I think you will find its actualy the opposite. I recall an article recently that cited 10 reasons why you should not go below 10% and one of the top reasons is that your resistance and ability to fight illness is reduced. Dont know how true it is as couldnt find any studies to back it up
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