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Old 07-17-2006, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Troublesome Exercises

Mike Robertson and I have something pretty cool in the works, and I thought that the folks on this board would be a great audience off of which to bounce a question we've got...

What exercises give you a lot of trouble from a technique standpoint? That is, if you could have a coach right there watching you, with what lifts would you want help?

We've already got a list of 27 we'll be covering, but we want to make this really comprehensive; in other words, the sky is the limit. Thoughts?

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Old 07-17-2006, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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kneeling cable crunch: Sounds like a simple one, but the kneeling cable crunch. I'm sure I do it wrong. I end up practically lifting myself off the ground when I do them. I find it hard to believe that my abs are THAT strong. I put 150 on the stack and have to put my weight into it (I'm 190lbs) or I come off the ground.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The obvious ones, to me at least, which means you probably already have em are..

Deadlift
Front squat
Squat
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm with Ogedei, you guys already covered those three and bent-over rows and bench press in your shoulder saver series.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Barbell rows. It's very difficult to check your own form because so much of the stabilization and form issues occur behind you... unless you look to the side at a mirror, and I'm not a fan of turning your head while lifting.

Also, Smith Machine curls. What happens if your bandana slips over one eye in the middle of these? It'd be nice to have a trainer there to straighten it back out.
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Romanian Deads. . . it seems I've seen some different variations. I second the deadlift, front squat and squat choices as well. Cannot have too good of technique on those.

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Old 07-17-2006, 07:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Im sure its on the list
Front Squats - im sure its a flexibility issue for me, but i just cant seem to do them with my elbows out front and up, cant even get close
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Donkey calf raises
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Front Squats, what about oly lifts?
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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oly lifts
Rackpulls (dont feel like im in the right motion for a deadlift)
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Clean and Jerk or just cleans.
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I echo the squat, front squat, and deadlift, but I'll also throw in there the bench press. I think a lotta people go for the elbows flared movement instead of elbows tucked.
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Repeats but
deads, squats, bent over row (always have troble with this)

Addition: high pulls, as a person with limted gym experience (2 years) I am always most concerned about motions that utilize your back (since if you injure that you can really screw up your life). So these are he ones I am most concerned about.
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Snatch
Overhead Squat
Janda Sit-up
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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rack pulls and single leg squats ( not split squats)
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Any style of lunges.
OH Squat
Snatch
Cleans


Hack Squats with a straight bar
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:49 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Romanian deadlifts. I did a web search trying to find a video and actually found definitions and video clips are radically different.

Any of the explosive moves. The potential for losing control of the weight is enough to make me want to have an expert right there to catch any problems right away.
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:55 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Front Squats, what about oly lifts?
WTG Kevin.

Yeah! I keep forgetting about those. I don't think you and Mike have covered Oly lifts. Those are very important to get right due to the forces exerted on the joints and back.
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