Help learning fireman's carry, ASAP! - JP Fitness Forums

galya · 07-17-2006, 12:31 PM

Tomorrow my husband has a part in the movie where he needs to pick up a prone man (200lbs) from the ground and throw him over his shoulder. He is practicing with me now. Is there a best way to do this or an easy way to do it. How do you do it?
Thank you guys!

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BFG · 07-17-2006, 12:32 PM

pmsl the things you do for your cause!

galya · 07-17-2006, 12:34 PM

Trial and error hurts, too

OldGuy · 07-17-2006, 12:34 PM

Jenn would probably know best how to do this.

galya · 07-17-2006, 12:37 PM

True. Good thinking. We tried with getting me up to a standing position first and it seems to work best.

Jean-Paul · 07-17-2006, 12:46 PM

Hm... Reminds me of the firefigher test with that 150 lb dummy.

Since you're floppy (dead weight I presume), he should probably roll you onto your back, pull you up to a sitting position so he can get his shoulders under your chest in a deep squat position, then hoist you over his shoulder and stand up. Obviously it is natural to do most of the lift with the lower back, so he needs to make sure he can get you over his shoulder as much as possible so he can get his back in a neutral position before standing.

I think Danny should field this one since it fits in well with his strongman training.

Mahler · 07-17-2006, 12:46 PM

Agreed, Jenn is the one. Probably like a fireman's carry although I don't know how the pick up is done.
Any firemen on here?

Iamjennmedic · 07-17-2006, 01:09 PM

HEy Galya sorry I am late on responding. The best method would be to roll you supine first, so you are on your back. Then the best method would be to grab by your wrists to pull you up to a sitting postion. from there he should be able to get down with on knee on the floor and get you laying across his back, just make sure he has one knee on the ground and the other leg (furtherest from you) should be foot on the floor so that he gets a good push up with that leg. Let me know if you'd like I can do some pictures.

Iamjennmedic · 07-17-2006, 01:12 PM

If standing is better start off the same way, once in the sitting postion if he gets one arm over his shoulder and one foot in front of your feet he should be able to get you up no problem. Only problem is that seems to be harder on the back because of the rotation involved. hmmmmm I'll go see what else i can come up with with the kids.. Give me a minute

Newlife · 07-17-2006, 01:12 PM

I would sit the limp person on his or her ass, like they were sitting with their arms hanging in front of them. Drape their arms over your back while squating down, and wrap your arms around their waist. pull them up and towards you while you stand up with them over your shoulder.

Thats how I would do it. Or just drag the SOB...lol

Newlife · 07-17-2006, 01:15 PM

Fireman's Carry

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The fireman's carry is a technique that allows one to carry another person without assistance. It is referred to as the "fireman's carry" because it is the most common way for firefighters to carry injured or unconscious people away from danger. However, this technique of carrying another human being is also used in other circumstances. Soldiers have been known to use this technique to carry wounded comrades. Lifeguards are sometimes trained to use the fireman's carry. The "fireman's carry takedown" is also a popular wrestling move.
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Technique

The proper technique of the fireman's carry requires carrying the subject over both shoulders. To perform the fireman's carry, the carrier would grasp the subject's wrist and put the subject's arm across one of his shoulders. Then, the carrier would reach between the subject's legs, passing his arm between the subject's legs and then grasping behind the subject's thigh. To avoid back injuries, it is important for the carrier to lift the subject using the strength of his legs. The carrier would have hold of the wrist of the subject and his other arm would be holding onto one of the legs of the subject. The subject would have one arm and one leg hanging freely behind the carrier's back.
Carrying someone in this manner has several advantages. The subject's torso is fairly level, which helps prevent further injuries. When the subject's weight is evenly distributed over both shoulders, it is easier to carry him for a longer distance.

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galya · 07-17-2006, 01:17 PM

Thank you! Thank you! I was carried around a bunch, no kidding. Let's hope he doesn't drop that guy tomorrow

Also, just to let you know, it's this guy (Steven Baldwin), Jonas is nervous about hurting him. Thank you all for helping, wow!

Iamjennmedic · 07-17-2006, 01:20 PM

First way works best. Thats how I was trained to do it. Its hard with little children but super easy with adults. Here's how I do itI always work on the patients left side- Get them supine and one(right leg) knee on the floor the other(left leg) foot on the floor grab just above the wrist and pull, swing your left leg to the patients right side so that your leg is across their lap, lean in and pull both arms over your shoulder- holding one wrist and scooping your free arm low on the body lift, as you lift you arm will slide to just under their bum. Works like a charm when you need to get someone out fast

Hope that helps

galya · 07-17-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamjennmedic

First way works best. Thats how I was trained to do it. Its hard with little children but super easy with adults. Here's how I do itI always work on the patients left side- Get them supine and one(right leg) knee on the floor the other(left leg) foot on the floor grab just above the wrist and pull, swing your left leg to the patients right side so that your leg is across their lap, lean in and pull both arms over your shoulder- holding one wrist and scooping your free arm low on the body lift, as you lift you arm will slide to just under their bum. Works like a charm when you need to get someone out fast

Hope that helps

Jen , you rock, but we can't figure out your second explanation. Do you have a picture? If not, that's fine, we've reahersed a few versions already.

Johnka · 07-17-2006, 01:35 PM

Congratulations to your husband for landing the role! Not many people can say they threw an unconscious Baldwin over their shoulder.

What's the movie?

galya · 07-17-2006, 01:40 PM

A sci-fi B film as usual. It's called Harpies (the mythical half-women, half-vulture things). I was too cute for a harpie, but I cast for it, too