Romanian Deadlifts??? - JP Fitness Forums

djhaycock · 07-05-2006, 06:21 PM

Are they the same as stiff-legged dl's?

Kevin Larrabee · 07-05-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by djhaycock

Are they the same as stiff-legged dl's?

Nope, instead there is a bend in the knee:

Cynic · 07-05-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by djhaycock

Are they the same as stiff-legged dl's?

No, like Kevin said. However, they are similar to straight leg deadlifts, except the ROM is more restricted.

djhaycock · 07-05-2006, 09:09 PM

Do either of you have a site with video for the correct form and ROM?

The site I found through a search on here only shows demos for stiff-legged DL's.

I'm about to start turbulence training and want to follow it as closely as possible.

Thanks in advance.

Cynic · 07-05-2006, 09:55 PM

http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/strength/...n_deadlift.htm
http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/Home.htm

For the second link, drill down through the exercise path and you'll see one. However, it looks more like a straight leg deadlift and the stiff leg also looks like a straight leg.

pjb923 · 07-06-2006, 08:54 AM

There is a nice article an t-nation that shows in detail the form for different types of deadlifts.

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....icle=250heavy2

Here is one paragraph from the article describing the difference between the RDL and what the author calls a Semi-Stiff-Legged Deadlift.

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Confused yet? The real difference between the RDL and SSDL is bar position. During the RDL, the hips move backward, thus keeping the bar close to the body. However, during the SSDL, the butt stays somewhat put (it will move back slightly). You'll still rotate around the hips, but the bar is now further away from the body.20 This, of course, will place greater stress on the lumbar erectors (your lower back.)17

kingkop182 · 07-06-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cynic

http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/strength/...n_deadlift.htm
http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/Home.htm

For the second link, drill down through the exercise path and you'll see one. However, it looks more like a straight leg deadlift and the stiff leg also looks like a straight leg.

That second site is great. I've spent ages just looking at the correct form of some of the more wierd lifts

Cynic · 07-06-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pjb923

There is a nice article an t-nation that shows in detail the form for different types of deadlifts.

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....icle=250heavy2

Here is one paragraph from the article describing the difference between the RDL and what the author calls a Semi-Stiff-Legged Deadlift.

Ok, this makes for two different explanations for the diff between RDL, SLDL, SSDL.

I heard the difference between Straight Leg and Romainian was ROM. In a SLDL, you go bend much farther, but a RDL is just a bit past the knees, but you always keep your back straight (why the hell would anyone round their back?)

I think I want some more opinions from more professionals to get a consensus.

ryan122185 · 07-07-2006, 08:26 AM

RDL depth depends on personal flexibility. Main Difference is the focus in RDL getting your ass back. Like a GM but holding the weight in front

K-Court · 07-07-2006, 09:09 AM

This thread has been really helpful. Thanks all.

Lisa~ · 07-07-2006, 10:00 AM

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RDL depth depends on personal flexibility. Main Difference is the focus in RDL getting your ass back. Like a GM but holding the weight in front

That's very well put Ryan. That's actually how I teach a GM. I teach RDLs first because they're easier for most people to grasp. Then when we add a GM (if we add a GM) I'll say, "Just like an RDL except the bar is on your shoulders." It usually works.

And Cynic, I think Paul Catanzaro's article is very good. If you need more info, please ask.

Lisa

jax · 07-07-2006, 10:55 AM

here's an old article of Craig B.'s on the subject:

http://www.cbathletics.com/issues/75.htm

djhaycock · 07-07-2006, 07:55 PM

Thanks a lot everyone. All this information really helped give me a better understanding. I can't wait to get back in the gym next week.

Now, if I can only shake this damn cold!

Cynic · 07-07-2006, 08:01 PM

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Now, if I can only shake this damn cold!

Start downing the Vit-C.

djhaycock · 07-07-2006, 08:07 PM

I have been all week along with tons of water and Airborne.

Pi$$es me off that I'm rolling right along and this happens. Second time in about 6 weeks that I get hampered by a cold.

Don't want to go to the gym and spread it to anyone so I suck it up and use it as a rest week.

Cynic · 07-07-2006, 10:13 PM

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And Cynic, I think Paul Catanzaro's article is very good. If you need more info, please ask.

I've got it printed and reading it fully now. However...the guy in the pic for the SSDL, it doesn't look quite right according to how I'm imagining it. His arms aren't perdindicular to the floor (he's extending his arms out), when his torso should be more forward, allowing the weight to move out from the body naturally.

It looks a lot like an RDL with the arms swung out.

Lisa~ · 07-08-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cynic

I've got it printed and reading it fully now. However...the guy in the pic for the SSDL, it doesn't look quite right according to how I'm imagining it. His arms aren't perdindicular to the floor (he's extending his arms out), when his torso should be more forward, allowing the weight to move out from the body naturally.

It looks a lot like an RDL with the arms swung out.

I agree with your criticism of that photo. But the text is good. Focus on the text. I think you've got it right.

Lisa