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Old 05-20-2006, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So i know olympic lifting gives you more explosive power, you can jump higher and stuff.
but what i was wondering is, will it make your shoulders broader and such? or what? and what does it do with "functional strenght" if there is a such thing, you know for everyday life..
does it do any good if your not gonna compete in the olympics?:P

im on an oly lifting routine now, after 12 weeks its over.. and i just want to figure out asap if im gonna keep on doing it or go back to powerlifting :P
and i know the old "do what you like best" thing.. but i would really like to know this, so please dont reply that, because i already know it:P
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Old 05-21-2006, 02:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So i know olympic lifting gives you more explosive power, you can jump higher and stuff.
but what i was wondering is, will it make your shoulders broader and such? or what?
Umm, if you mean will o-lifts make your shoulders bigger, then thats dependent on diet.

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and what does it do with "functional strenght" if there is a such thing, you know for everyday life..
If you o-lift, youll be strengthening your PC, core, and ability to produce power in a short period of time. You can be strong, but when weights get very heavy, you need to be able to exert enough power to just get momentum.

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im on an oly lifting routine now, after 12 weeks its over.. and i just want to figure out asap if im gonna keep on doing it or go back to powerlifting :P
Well why are you doing either?
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Old 05-21-2006, 06:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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you need to be able to exert enough power to just get momentum.
So your saying power will also make me stronger?

im doing oly lifting because i thought it looked fun (and it is), so i wanted to give it a go.

and about diet i know that, i was just wondering if the exersices would be of much help. i eat as much as i can a day (trying to gain some weight, im a skinny guy) and i try to make it as clean as possible, i eat 5-6 times a day i try to get 6 a day but sometimes i cant due to school and stuff like that. and i drink tons of water and take multivitamins..
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I would try to incorporate it with conventional lifting. O lifting wont make you look like a bodybuilder but it will build a ton of strength. I cant even begin to explain all the real world functional benefits of it.
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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okay, thanks.
well im on a 12 week program of o lifting now. when im done with that, i could do a powerlifting program, then when im done with that, do o lifting again.. and go like that? would that be a good idea? or did you mean to do one day o lifting and another day powerlifting and go like that?
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People that compete in both most likely periodize for a longer period of time
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The only thing o lifting won't directly improve would most likely be bench. But it could improve depending on how long you've been training
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Old 05-21-2006, 11:12 AM   #8 (permalink)
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well i do bench additional to the oly lifts.
heres the link for the program incase someone is interrested:P : http://www.qwa.org/programs/tint13.asp

i dont compete in either.. do you think it would be most profitable to do o lifting for one long period, then powerlifting for one long period.. or?
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not trying to hijack the thread but, do you guys think it's enough to incorporate clean&jerks into your routine to gain more strength, or should both snatch and C&J be incorporated? Because they pretty much use the same musclegroups.
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do you only do oly lifting? no other powerlifting exersices along with it?
id do both.. atleast you get some varity.. and thats always good as far as i know:P
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i usualy do bench and squat along with clean, snatch, and split jerk.
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okay, well im no expert so i dont know, i would wait for someone more experienced to come along
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So your saying power will also make me stronger?
It helps.








I was decently strong going into o-lifting, but getting faster from the lifts made me even stronger, which in turn helps with oly weights as they become a smaller percentage of your max.

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and about diet i know that, i was just wondering if the exersices would be of much help. i eat as much as i can a day (trying to gain some weight, im a skinny guy) and i try to make it as clean as possible, i eat 5-6 times a day i try to get 6 a day but sometimes i cant due to school and stuff like that. and i drink tons of water and take multivitamins..
If youre a teenager, then you are most likely eating too little to gain weight, esp if youre active. You dont have to eat 6 meals a day, just make the meals taht you currently eat a lot bigger. Its good to eat veggies and try to eat "clean" but a burger or pizza wont hurt either.

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i dont compete in either.. do you think it would be most profitable to do o lifting for one long period, then powerlifting for one long period.. or?
They are two different sports and both require technical mastery of respective lifts. An olympic pull and a DL are very different lines of pull so one will not necessarily correlate with the other. What you need to focus on is what lifts are you particularly interested in increasing. From there you can form a plan to make it happen. Simply following PL or OL routines without a goal in mind will get you no where.
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yeah im a teenager, ive gained a bit weight latley, about 5kgs over maybe 6months.. its slow progress, but atleast its progress..

well i love the oly lifts and i also like squat and deadlifts, military presss and bench.. and rows :P
so when im done with this, maybe ill just make a routine with those lifts?

i eat burgers and pizzas ocationally.. maybe even often:P i just try to keep the candy part down as i get full from it and cant eat more "propper" food.

and my current goal is to clean jerk my body weight, currently at about 75kg's my current is 62.5, so it might be a long shot, but who knows, my technique will probobly improve some, and that always helps and not only pure power.
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You should easily be able to clean jerk your BW without specializing. But that is an intermediate routine if you do not have much experience with olifting look at beginning routine. If your goal is the clean you BW. You probably should be able to front squat you BW.
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i was advised to do the intermid one, beginner routines dont really give me gains anymore. ive done some explosive work in the past, just not these o lifts. and the bodyweight clean and jerk is just that i need to get the technique down, then i think it will be pretty easy actually. snatching my BW would be cool, but that for me is a long shot.
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