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Old 04-20-2006, 12:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So after moving my gym from the garage to a room inside, I can't do standing military press because of the ceiling height in the room. So today I used a incline bench instead.

But how inclined does the bench need to be for it to make the difference in muscle focus from that of the flat bench?

Also, how inclined does it need to be to make the lift a vertical plane instead of a horizontal plane?
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Old 04-20-2006, 01:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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from memory a 22 degree angle is sufficient change
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks.
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Old 04-21-2006, 07:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ive always heard 30 or 45? :S i guess it depends what you want to hit most, chest or shoulders?
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The lower the angle, the more emphasis on your chest. The steeper the angle, the more you hits your shoulders. When I do seated military press, I have it almost vertical.
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Old 04-21-2006, 03:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The lower the angle, the more emphasis on your chest. The steeper the angle, the more you hits your shoulders. When I do seated military press, I have it almost vertical.
Get a Swiss Ball and set on it for over head presses. (DB's) Adds a bit O challenge to the exercise.
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That's exacly what I do when my workout calls for standing shoulder presses...I sit on a swiss ball. Probably not as effective as standing, but it's better than sitting on a stable surface. When I do seated military presses, I sit on a flat bench. This adds core stability requirement.

For incline presses, as others have said, the angle will vary the muscle groups involved. The lower the angle, the more chest is involved, the higher the angle the more the shoulders work.

I generally try to change it up from a slight angle up to 45-degrees.
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Get a Swiss Ball and set on it for over head presses. (DB's) Adds a bit O challenge to the exercise.
Thanks for the tip. I probably can't do standings because of the low ceilings, so I needed an alternative.
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You might also try kneeling military press, provided that you have good padding for your knees. Since your body is not (likely) accustomed to balancing in a kneeling position, it can really give your stabilizers and core muscles an extra challenge during the movement.
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I find myself sitting on the floor to do an overhead exercise sometimes. But I agree with the balll tip.
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We had a nice clarification about this a little bit ago (don't remember which thread), but equally, if not more importantly, is the spacing of your hands...keeping your hands in a tighter position, allowing your elbows to move closer to your sides, will bring more upper pec into the movement.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Flat Bench Press vs. Incline Bench Press

here's the thread bip was talkign about...
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here's the thread bip was talkign about...
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