PJB found a great summary. I do them because I have shoulder issues and the floor does not let me drop my elbows below parallel. Doing so puts the shoulder in a less than ideal position.
Can I ask you guys how you are getting larger DB's in place for the movement? I tried these a while back and found only 1 solution and I didn't care for it. I rested the DB on my chest while sitting and then rolled back. It was dangerous with any type of weight that was a challange. I ended up switching to Barbell floor press so my partner could place the bar in my hand while I was already in position. Any ideas? It was too hard to clean the weight up while sitting or lying down.
For whatever reason in my work gym are two little collapsible stools (like director's chairs) that I can rest the DB's on their sides. I sit down between them and then tip them back as I lay down. Not very applicable for most gyms, but that's what I do if I'm not using the BB in the cage.
Can I ask you guys how you are getting larger DB's in place for the movement? I tried these a while back and found only 1 solution and I didn't care for it. I rested the DB on my chest while sitting and then rolled back. It was dangerous with any type of weight that was a challange. I ended up switching to Barbell floor press so my partner could place the bar in my hand while I was already in position. Any ideas? It was too hard to clean the weight up while sitting or lying down.
Larger is subjective... But, I set the 75s down on the floor and sit down between them. One at a time, I hoist each up onto my thighs. Then I lay back and bring my thighs up to push the dbs into the air. My elbows stay on the ground while I'm lying back, so I start the lift in the bottom position.
I do the same thing as you Lost Dog. It might be a little late for this advice though *looks at date on Newlife's post*:p
__________________
And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
Just tell him you had the answer eight months ago but you wanted to wait and give it to him as a Christmas gift. Merry Christmas Newlife.
__________________
And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
You'd lose out on the stretch at the bottom. That's an important part of the fly. You could still do them on the ground, as long as you know that, but the fly is already an exercise that only offers benefits within a limited range of motion. The bottom and up to about 45 degrees, you have the most tention, then physics screws us up and we start to lose tention as our arms get more vertical. Darn gravity!
You guys don't have to write my name like that every time. Matthew is fine. Or Matt. My sister calls me Matty, but don't do that.
__________________
And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate
I don't mind it when someone I'm really close to calls me Matty, like my sister, or a cousin, or a close girl friend. Or if it's as a joke (no worries karky). Otherwise I like to be known as Matt or Matthew.
There's nothing wrong with Matty, but like everything else some people may like it and some people won't.
__________________
And major action will certainly make you feel a bit uncomfortable, which is absolutely fine. You've gotta get excited about feeling uncomfortable, you've gotta love feeling slightly uncomfortable, because you know that you're stepping outside the boundaries that you used to create.
Zach Even-Esh
I've made some huge mistakes, but they were necessary, because without them I wouldn't have learned anything.
-Dave Tate