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03-19-2007, 03:06 AM
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Breathing, effect on cardiovascular system?
Ok. If you run as fast as you can, you can breathe as fast as you can. When you swim, you cant do this, you have to wait until your mouth is clear of the water. I was wondering what are the effects of this on the cardio training you do? The fact that you cant breathe as fast as you can and have to keep a "normal" breathing frequency even if your going at it hard.
Anyone?
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03-19-2007, 07:01 AM
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Actually, the faster you swim the faster you can breath. Plus, I believe regulating your breathing is essential for running (I could be wrong). Swimming is self regulating unless of course you are Aquaman!
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03-19-2007, 07:34 AM
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yeah you can breathe faster the faster you swim, i forgot about that. by you get my point? its not as "free" as if you were running.
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03-19-2007, 08:49 AM
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By restricting your breathing to every 3, 4, or even more strokes, you can increase your VO2 max, lung capacity, and breathing efficiency. Perhaps I don't see the point of "breathing faster", because there are a lot of benefits to be had by doing hypoxic work.
For what it's worth, the top sprinters will race a 50 with one or two breaths at most.
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03-19-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman21
By restricting your breathing to every 3, 4, or even more strokes, you can increase your VO2 max, lung capacity, and breathing efficiency. Perhaps I don't see the point of "breathing faster", because there are a lot of benefits to be had by doing hypoxic work.
For what it's worth, the top sprinters will race a 50 with one or two breaths at most.
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Cool info! There are benefits to hypoxic work??? Outside of being able to free dive deeper/longer???
I never knew sprinters took so few breaths! Why?
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03-19-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Q.
I never knew sprinters took so few breaths! Why?
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Breathing takes away from your body's optimal aerodynamics. Simply put, it's the slowest part of the stroke.
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03-20-2007, 10:10 AM
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I'm digging around for an article I read. There was a study done where they actually put people through breathing exercises for a series of weeks. There were 3 groups.. all I remember is that one group actually wore an apporatus that restricted their air flow somewhat. Their performance was affected but at the end of the study that groups V02 max actually increased. Just goes to show how well ou bodies can adapt over time. I'll post the link if/when I find it. Anyone else see that study?
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03-20-2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
I'm digging around for an article I read. There was a study done where they actually put people through breathing exercises for a series of weeks. There were 3 groups.. all I remember is that one group actually wore an apporatus that restricted their air flow somewhat. Their performance was affected but at the end of the study that groups V02 max actually increased. Just goes to show how well ou bodies can adapt over time. I'll post the link if/when I find it. Anyone else see that study?
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I believe it was referenced in MH a while back. I remember reading it because I saw a picture of a swimmer 
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03-21-2007, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman21
Breathing takes away from your body's optimal aerodynamics. Simply put, it's the slowest part of the stroke.
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As painful as it is for me, well on the return 25 anyhow, swimming the 25 without breathing is pretty cool, never having to break your line.
I have been working on breathing every 5th stroke, so essentially twice as long as usual.
Og.
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03-21-2007, 01:41 PM
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As painful as it is for me, well on the return 25 anyhow, swimming the 25 without breathing is pretty cool, never having to break your line.
I have been working on breathing every 5th stroke, so essentially twice as long as usual.
Og.
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That's great to hear Og. I'm a big believer in adding some hypoxic work to every single workout.
If you're really up for testing your manhood, try a full-exhaustion sprint kick set (perhaps some HIIT intervals), and follow it with a short rest and some max-tolerance breath control swims. The O2 demand generated by your legs will have your lungs screaming for mercy, and you'll really force yourself to toughen mentally and physically.
I absolutely hate doing it, but it's a phenomenal method for conditioning.
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