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Old 04-28-2005, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know the popular response is probably going to be Alex rodriguez. however, imho I believe vlad guerrero, with his many dimensions would get my vote
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's pretty hard to narrow down. There are so many guys with different types of skills.

A-Rod and Vlad are definately the 2 best in terms of overall game (average, power, speed, defense).
Ichiro, Manny Ramirez, Migeul Tejada, Derek Jeter, Alfonso Soriano, Eric Chavez, Torii Hunter, Hideki Matsui, Pudge Rodriguez and Gary Sheffield are all dominant in different ways.

For my Top 5, I'd say,
1. Vlad
2. A-Rod
3. Ichiro
4. Manny
5. Sheffield
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ichiro -- Lou P. once said that Ichiro can go yeard just like any other player, except he's batting #1 in the lineup so why make him do so? THey used to set up garbage cans in the outfield that Ichiro would hit into. He has such control of his swing it's rediculous. Plus he can steal bases and he's an excellent fielder.

PS. A-Rod slaps like a little girl. (In ref. to the ALCS)
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm a sox fan, but Manny fields like he has rocks in his pockets.
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Old 05-01-2005, 07:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Jeter has some of the best on field awareness in the majors, period. His plate production, after an abysmal start last year, has been very good so far too. Arod is Arod, Ichiro puts the ball into play every time he steps to the plate and has an arm like a cannon, and Tejada is fantastic overall, but taking into account leadership, awareness, and competiveness, I take Jeet.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Ichiro is god!!!!!

Vlad and Koskie.

Koskie is a local product from here... to bad he has very little help in a weak Toronto lineup.

I think A-rod is over priced.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Koskie? He's a good player, but how does his name come up when talking about the best positional players in the AL? I'd take 4 or 5 other AL 3rd basemen ahead of him.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Guerrero, Ichiro and Tejada always leap to mind. They are all great hitters (with potential for avg, power or speed) and are defensively quite impressive.

As big a Yankees fan as I am, I can't say that ARod ranks up there right now. I mean, the move to NY really set him back. Switching cities and positions has kicked him back to the "very good" category for now.

Lucky for me, I swiped Vlad at the #3 pick in my fantasy baseball league. (ARod and Pujols went 1-2).
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Did anyone see Ichiro's catch yesterday? Where he outran the ball to the wall climbed up there and kinda hung on waiting for it to bring it back?
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm a sox fan, but Manny fields like he has rocks in his pockets.
Or rocks in his shoes. Pretty hilarious to see him chase after a ball.

If I'm going hitting skills, I take Manny or Ortiz. If I want leadership and that uncanniness to make the right decision, I take Jeter. In no way do I take A Rod. Granted no one will ever justify a 25 million a year deal, but something about him just turns me off.

If this was last year I take Carlos Beltran hands down. But, I'm torn between Ichiro and Vlad.

Hell, if he keeps this up I'm going to vote for Brian Roberts.

BTW, on the subject of A Fraud, has anyone noticed that the middle pole of field lights in that Speed Stick commercial at the end, spells "E 5?" (3B error)
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Old 05-03-2005, 09:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Haha, good observation. And yea, Beltran has done us Mets fans proud thus far. Hopefully we can win a few more games, and maybe take the division from the Braves for the first time in about 15 years.
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13 to be exact
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Old 05-03-2005, 10:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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13 to be exact
You're forgetting the Expos in '94 [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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They don't count.

Hell, the Royals would have been '94 Central champs. We even had our playoff tickets ordered.
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Old 05-04-2005, 08:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Check out what Tejada has done this year so far for the Orioles. That's pretty dang impressive
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Check out what Tejada has done this year so far for the Orioles. That's pretty dang impressive
Or what he did in the HR contest last year!
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I had the chance to attend the HR Derby in Houston. That is a site to see. Those guys can can hit some absolute bombs.
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I had the chance to attend the HR Derby in Houston. That is a site to see. Those guys can can hit some absolute bombs.
Very cool. Tejada broke the record, but Berkman's shots were ungodly! Must've been fun!
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I had great seats on the third base side 20 rows from the field. Besides seeing shot after shot it was just fun watching Manny clown on the sidelines and Tim Hudson playing catch with Tejada. If you're a fan of the game you need to spend the money and see it just once.
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They don't count.

They count to those of us who were fans [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I went to a lot of games at th Big O during the summer of '94. They were an exciting team and attendance was getting very good (35-40 000) by the time the strike was called. The team never had a chance thereafter
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i wish koskie was still in minnesota.

hate to say it but arod is about the best out there- better at short though. ichiro is amazing too. that catch was sick.
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