I have lost all respect for the patriots organization and its fans tonight. I hosted a super bowl party at my house tonight, and after getting liquored up and the game commencing, my girlfriend, best friend, his sister and I went to our favorite local bar to grab some more drinks.
Waiting in line to get in, I was wearing my Ronnie Brown jersey, and a random Pats fan started harnessing me. Mind you I said nothing to this kid, and he starts telling me the dolphins suck and I should be embarrassed to wear my jersey. I asked him how many games the 72 fins lost and turned my back to him. He then started screaming at the top of his lungs that the 72 fins sucked and the pats would kill them. Starting to get annoyed I turned around and asked him if the pats won the superbowl and walked into the bar. He crossed the line n put his hand on my shoulder and said the pats would kill he fins. I started to get irritated and told him to walk away, i said im here with my friends and i dont want anything to do with you. As I turn away the kid punches me in the face.
I looked at him and said "your dead", I jumped the fence after him and he starts running, the bouncer actually chased him down and grabbed him. At this point my friend was holding me back, and the bouncer said and i quote "he sucker punched him, let him go". He did and I punched the kids face in till my hand went numb, he got up and started running, I swear i chased the kid 2 and a half blocks till the booze caught up with me n i gave up.
I officially have lost all respect for patriot fans. your all a bunch of scum bags and Im glad you officially are the biggest disappointment in the history of the NFL. Pop the fucking champagne Morris.
not before I left him some "souvenirs" as well. freggin split my knuckles on his face. im going to bed......fucking idiots out there. I didnt want any part of this mind you. I told the kid to walk away, he crossed the line.
sorry bout that fritzy, i was still pretty drunk when i wrote that last night. Just pissed, but I still will never look at someone in a Pats jersey the same way.
One idiot shouldn't ruin it for everyone else. Sports are entertainment, it's jackasses like him that make it more than that.
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I looked at him and said "your dead", I jumped the fence after him and he starts running, the bouncer actually chased him down and grabbed him. At this point my friend was holding me back, and the bouncer said and i quote "he sucker punched him, let him go". He did and I punched the kids face in till my hand went numb, he got up and started running, I swear i chased the kid 2 and a half blocks till the booze caught up with me n i gave up.
Hmmm...I think I would have prefered calling the police and charging his with assult. It lasts longer, but that's just me.
my friends say im a shit magnet, i agree with them. And its rare I will fight or fight back. Just when someone acts so cowardice as to punch an unsuspecting person and run, well they deserve what they get.
Same observation here Steve ...there seems to be a lot of confrontation in your life. Its been my experience you either seek it out or seek to avoid it.
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Don't worry, he won't unless he has bouncer backing him up :p
anyway, that kid was out of line, but I hope you didn't leave too much damage. A "rule of the streets" I've learned (not that I'm gangster or anything in any way, but you pick up some things in life) is that a punch should be retaliated with a punch, not two punches and a kick, that's how murders happen.
Don't worry, he won't unless he has bouncer backing him up :p
anyway, that kid was out of line, but I hope you didn't leave too much damage. A "rule of the streets" I've learned (not that I'm gangster or anything in any way, but you pick up some things in life) is that a punch should be retaliated with a punch, not two punches and a kick, that's how murders happen.
That might be how it is in Norway but I don't think gangsters around here have gotten the news on that yet. lol
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A "rule of the streets" I've learned (not that I'm gangster or anything in any way, but you pick up some things in life) is that a punch should be retaliated with a punch, not two punches and a kick, that's how murders happen.
Yeah, that's not the way we do things here in 'Merrica.
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That might be how it is in Norway but I don't think gangsters around here have gotten the news on that yet. lol
unfortunately, it's not really how it is here, but some people with some "respect" towards others follow the rule. The thing is that feelings get involved, and the whole "well he punched my best friend so he's gonna get it good!" mentality, instead of just an eye for an eye.
unfortunately, it's not really how it is here, but some people with some "respect" towards others follow the rule. The thing is that feelings get involved, and the whole "well he punched my best friend so he's gonna get it good!" mentality, instead of just an eye for an eye.
Wasn't that how WWII got started?
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yeah, so i should of let this kid run off n called the cops.....you kidding me? Where i come from, you defend yourself when someone attacks you.
Wait a miniute...
You said the bouncer caught him. So, he was in custody already. So...how's he going to run off while you wait for the cops?
Did the bouncer hold him for you while you beat on him? You didn't say the bouncer let the kid go, only that your friend let you go. I mean, if he was getting away from you the first time, how come it is he didn't start running and getting away once the bouncer let him go? That is, if he let him go. You did say it was the bouncer that caught him, not you.
the bouncer ran after the kid grabbed him, when my friend let me go the bouncer let him go, not before i was close enough to flag him down, its not like the boucner held him while I swung, that would of been very wrong on my part. He evne came up to me in the bar and said he doesnt like seeing people get sucker punched and thought it was only fair for me to get my hit. All he did was close the distance, and wasnt touching him by the time I got my hit in.
Maybe we have different backgrounds, but I am a "fighter" in every sense of the word. Not that I look for fights, but Ive been involved in combat sports pretty much my whole life and was taught by my father at a very young age that your fists and your pride are the only things you have when you are backed into a corner. I told the kid to walk away, and I turned my back and walked off. I dont care if you dont agree with what I did, because I agree with it. I didnt hit a defenseless person. I hit a coward He struck first. I didnt hit a man when he was down, I didnt turn my back and run after it.
The only reason my friend even held me back was that he never saw me get hit, he thought I was just getting rowdy.
If you dont agree with me, let someone punch you in the face in front of your wife or girlfriend and stand there and do nothing. See how that makes you feel.
Funny how I have to defend myself on the board too. Its very easy for someone who has never in their life gotten either hit or in a fight to ridicule other people for fighting, like we are barbaric or something.
I didnt hit a defenseless person. I hit a coward He struck first. I didnt hit a man when he was down, I didnt turn my back and run after it.
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The only reason my friend even held me back was that he never saw me get hit, he thought I was just getting rowdy.
Steve - I'm just going to comment on what you wrote since that's all I know of what happened. You have a friend who's instinct was to hold you back because you might have been getting rowdy.
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I didnt hit a man when he was down, I didnt turn my back and run after it.
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I punched the kids face in till my hand went numb, he got up and started running,I swear i chased the kid 2 and a half blocks till the booze caught up with me n i gave up.
I'm one of those who has never been hit, never been in a fight, never been with someone who got in a fight - but I would have thought that punching a kid in the face until your hand goes numb from which he then has to "get up" to start running away would have been hitting a man when he was down. And then pursuing him after he got up and ran away would be piling on when it was unnecessary to keep going.
but as I said, I don't know you and I wasn't there - I'm just saying based on what I read it seemed over the top.
Waiting in line to get in, I was wearing my Ronnie Brown jersey, and a random Pats fan started harnessing me.
If he tried to put a harness on you out of nowhere, you had right to punch him. If he tried to get the saddle on your back and mount you with no forewarning, you had right to kick his ass.
Now, if he was nice and came up and stroked you head and gave you a carrot to munch on before he tried to harness you, well.... you need to be broken before they decide you're too much work and send you to the glue factory.
Steve, this isn't a group of moral elitists attacking you -- it's a group of friends who care a lot about you. The whole you, not just part of you. We care about your pride but also your character. Your respect but also your legal freedom. When fights escalate enough, some of these things start to become mutually exclusive.
Most of the people making comments are quite a bit older than you and we tend to mellow a bit as we age. And with that comes a realization that every time we fight with our fists to defend our pride or our sports team, we lose something in the process. And when we walk away from those moments without retalitation, we gain something. This goes directly against the natural human instinct, I know.
I've been in the position where someone was ridiculing me and gave me a sucker punch to the back, in high school. I called him on it in the locker room, and he puffed up and acted cocky but backed away when the heat was on. Yet if he hadn't backed away, you'd better believe I would've been ready to let loose. My high school was sometimes a place of violence and ruthlessness, and I truly felt like my survivial depended on avoiding a reputation of being a pussy.
As time went on, the stakes went down for what I would be defending. Somebody gets in my face at a ballgame? So what, I 'll never see them again. A stranger hits me in a public place, in front of my wife? So what, she'd rather have me bruised and free than angry and jailed. I'm no longer in a school where my reputation is so important to my safety.
You're a strong guy, and the human body is actually quite fragile. Severely injuring or even killing a person in the heat of the moment is easier than you may think. And in your multiple postings of physical confrontations, nobody wants to see it progress to that point. You are so much more than just a strong body and a strong sense of self-worth. You deserve a long, free life so that your whole self gets a chance to grow and shine.
I'm not judging you because I wasn't there. You said you felt your actions were right, and I won't argue with that. I only propose that you ask yourself this -- what exactly were you defending when the bouncer let the kid go and you launched into him? If you had injured or killed him, would a jury call it self-defense? Was there some risk to your personal safety at that point, or was it about respect? You are the only one who can answer those questions, both for this instance and when the next one comes up.
I believe that some people have an involuntary aura about them that invites certain things in. I, for example, get a ton of people asking me for money. Not sure why -- I don't dress all that well or drive an expensive car. But it comes nonetheless. You may have an aura that invites confrontation, through no fault of your own. But you have total control over your own actions once the situation comes up.
I hope this is taken in the spirit of friendship and love it's coming from. You're a good guy and we're glad to have you here.
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So i got sucker punched by a pats fan tonight.
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