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Old 10-02-2005, 07:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why ‘Endurance’ Training lacks staying power

By Alwyn Cosgrove



The biggest mistake endurance athletes make in their training program is falling into the trap that their sport is about who can go the longest. It’s not. It’s STILL about who can go the fastest. They give medals for the first athlete to cross the5K/10K/ marathon/ ultra marathon finish line – not the athlete who crosses it and can keep on going. There’s a reason it’s 26 miles and 385 yards. There’s an END point. And whoever gets there the fastest will be the winner.



Traditional endurance training programs reflect that fallacy. They are based around a lot of mileage to increase your ‘endurance’.



As a sports scientist – let me break this down. Endurance in my field – is the ability to maintain a constant sub maximal output – to maintain a lower percentage of your max output. In other words – your ability to run/bike/swim slower than you are able to, for longer periods of time.



So if your ability to run fast (at maximal speed) merits a hypothetical ‘score’ of 100 units – you may be able to run a 10K race at 70% of this or 70 units.



Typical endurance training involves you running at this 70% for long periods of time, hoping that somehow – when it comes to race day – you’ll be able to run at 75%! This will never happen. If you can run a six minute mile – and you train for 12 weeks running 3-4 miles at a time, at 6min mile pace – what do you predict you’ll run on race day? That’s correct – a six minute mile. You’ve trained for 12 weeks and produce the same speed you were capable of before you trained.



(Real world example: I was hired to conduct the strength training portion of a program for some of the LA Sheriff’s department as they prepared for the annual law enforcement Baker to Vegas relay run. I was given a copy of their running regime, written by a TOP name in the endurance training field and was actually very disappointed in what I saw. First off the volume in my opinion was excessive – with the team running 7 days per week. But more surprising was the QUALITY of those sessions. There was one fartlek workout per week for speed, and one hill workout to develop strength, and therefore speed. The other FIVE workouts were all listed as ‘slow pace’, ‘easy pace’ and ‘moderate pace’. I asked one of the runners for his personal best mile pace for the five mile section he was running. He was running a 5:30. After reviewing his training log, we established that with all this volume – he was averaging a 7 min mile pace in training. His goal? To run a 5:15 pace. How on earth are you going to run a 5:15 in competition, when your average pace in training is a 7 min mile? Where is the speed going to come from if you don’t train for it? Needless to say we revamped the training program and he was successful in reaching his goal)



Here’s the modern system – if you can maintain 70% of your max pace – if I raised that max pace to 120, even without any direct endurance training, that 70% would now be 84 ‘units’. So because you built more “power” in your running engine – we automatically increase your capacity to run long at a sub maximal pace.



(Example: Max speed: 6 min mile. Running a seven minute mile is cruising – you are working way below your limit.

But if your max speed was a 5 min mile – then running a six and a half minute mile would be even easier than the first example.)



So if we accept that endurance is all about maintaining a lower percentage of your max output – then increasing that max output is the key to increasing your endurance.



Modern “endurance” training should begin with high intensity work – not slow low intensity work.



Still not a believer – consider the following:

One recent study, which is soon to be published in the US, concluded that 10-km running performance could be predicted from a combination of 300m time trial performance and plyometric leap distance; both of which have explosive power as a determining aspect.

Hmmm. The ability to predict an “endurance” time based upon a speed and power component. Interesting. Another study done by researchers in Finland several years ago showed that 5-km run time could be significantly improved by supplementing run training with explosive power and speed sessions.





TRAINING ROUTINES



With the above philosophy in mind, there are several high intensity methods that we can use to train for ANY endurance activity.



This month we are focusing on the triathlon. Triathlons used to be primarily aimed at retired swimmers or runners. But now – triathlon has some into its own – it’s an Olympic sport and has its own subculture and training methods.



Here’s our "dummies guide" to triathlon training:



1) You must get technical preparation for the swim event. Running and cycling are probably easier for you in that you know what to do. The swim event will require some more work.

2) At some point – you need to train at least two modes on the same day. The hardest part of a triathlon for many is getting off the bike with your legs DEAD and having to run. You need to train for this unique sensation.

3) There is no need to do the full distance in training PHYSIOLOGICALLY. We prepare the body to handle the full distance, and based on science, we know that it is possible. However for PSYCHOLOGICAL reasons – a lot of athletes like to ‘know’ they have the conditioning to do the entire distance and like to schedule a practice ‘event’ prior. There is no harm in this, but psychologically on race day you’ll be a wreck anyway, so in our opinion it offers little benefit in the real world.



All distances and modes in the below examples can be adjusted. Feel free to substitute swimming for running etc.




Diminishing rest interval method



Here’s the premise: Split the distance you are running / biking up into three – four periods (so if you are running three miles, we’ll use a mile)



Run that first distance (one mile) as hard as possible.

Rest for at least 50% of the time it took you to run the mile (we are looking for almost full recovery).

Repeat for two more sets (until you’ve covered the full distance).



Perform twice a week. Each week – reduce the rest interval by 30 seconds. So be week four, you’ve cut two minutes of your rest time.



Here’s the concept: You can run a six minute mile. But when you do three miles you average 21 mins or a 7 min mile. If we prepared you by running only 3 miles – we only reinforce that slower speed. So running three miles trains you to run at the slower speed.



With this method – we work on the quality, the speed of your run. We maintain a much higher speed, and a much more intense workout, and develop the endurance by cutting back on the rest period – as opposed to slowing down the pace.



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Select a 60m area – straight as possible. Starting at one end – sprint maximally to the 60m mark – should take under 10 seconds. Turn and jog back, taking approximately 20 seconds. Perform a total of 4 circuits to complete one set (this is approx 2 minutes). A session should be as follows: three sets with a one minute rest between each (9 minutes); rest for two minutes and repeat for a total of a 20 minute workout. This is not for the faint hearted.

Obviously this workout can be performed over a longer distance – just maintain the ratio between work and rest periods, and understand the concept. We are trying to develop our ability to go long, by increasing our capacity to go hard. Going at 70% of 100mph is still faster than 80% of 70mph.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have never understood the recommendation to do all long training runs at slow paces and to only do "race pace" runs for 5-6 miles as a prelude to a marathon. How in the hell are you going to run 26 miles at "race pace," if you have never even approached that distance at race pace in training??

Certainly you get an adrenaline push in a race, and most people do run faster in a race versus in training (I assume), but in many ways it seems to me that there is too much emphasis on easy runs and miles and miles and more miles in marathon training. Just my impression, though.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I wish I knew about this when I was in the Marine Corps. I would have been able to consistently max the run portion! So much of our training was formation runs. I would train for a three mile run by running 3 - 5 miles. This did reinforce a slower pace as Alwyn says. Intuitively, I could have seen this by comparing my mile times with my three mile times.
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Old 10-06-2005, 10:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd like to see the rest of what he has to say and what\how\if he changes things per distances or fitness levels.

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the princibles vs a 1mile run vs a 12mile run vs a 26+mile run. newbie vs int vs advanced.

The two speed days aren't particularly ground breaking or the methods, but I'd like to see how many rest days, how many long days (if any), how many easy days (if any). What do you do on the other five days a week?
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Gobbla, I would be very interested in that, too. His training philosophy sounds like it would be heresy over on the Runner's World forums.
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Old 10-07-2005, 02:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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got to admit that I haven't spent any real time over there. a whole lot of spam.

IMO it's another example of the simularities between lifting and running (or likely any physical activity). In order to improve you have to push beyond the norm.

It's too easy to overcomplicate things, but when you step back and take a deep breath it's all pretty simple at the end of the day. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Sounds like Alwyn has been reading too much Runner's World. Real training programs for marathons (aka, not GalloWalking or Hal Higodn's latest cash cow) take race-pace distance runs into account, and require them for maximum performance. The problem is, as with bodybuilding, many people are buying the pop-fitness ideals rather than learning the science behind training. There are many legitimate coaches/writers who have written training programs that incoporate speed and distance as separate and simultaneous components: Pete Pfitzinger, Jack Daniels, Scott Douglas, etc. As w/Men's Health, Rodale Press et al. have to publish what appeals to the lowest common denominator, which explains why I had a co-worker ask me to write him a marathon-training program w/only 3-4 days/wk running. "Galloway published one. Why can't you write one." Because, dipshit, you have to do hill work, short repeats, long intervals, AND tempo runs in addition to your long run every week. AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH!
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Well, I've been running 4 days a week and am doing a marathon on Saturday...I guess we'll see how it works. I've found pretty good results on half-marathons using my self-written programs.
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Yeah, I confess that I was only running 3-4 days/week when I trained for my first marathon in Feb. of this year. I think it worked okay for me, because all of the runs had some intensity... I basically wasn't doing any recovery-type runs.

This time around, I am running 5 days per week -- so, I'll see whether I can push myself to a better time. I have a hard time following a training plan with running. It seems to never work out schedule-wise and/or I'm just not able to do all of the prescribed workouts and keep up a decent amount of weight training.
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you have to do hill work, short repeats, long intervals, AND tempo runs in addition to your long run every week. AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH!
Sorry to butt in the runners forum when I don't run.. but very interesting info about endurance training here..I wonder if you can help me .. I do HIIT on mondays, a 40 mins workout on the stepper and any other machine except the eliptical on wednesdays with as many "sprints" as i feel good about doing, on thursdays i do a 60 min. eliptical trying do sort of keep the same pace throught, but be better each week. on fridays i go on 3-4 hour hikes at a good pace (with poles) and work hard on the many hills .. I have two questions.. 1) any suggestions how i should improve my cardio training or comments on my program? 2) what are tempo runs?
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Tempo Runs: This is a continuous run with an easy beginning, a build-up in the middle to near 10-K race pace (or slightly slower than your pace in a 5-K), then ease back and slow down toward the end. A typical Tempo Run would begin with 5-10 minutes easy running, build to 10-15 minutes at 10-K pace, then 5-10 minutes cooling down. You can't figure out your pace on a watch doing this workout; you need to listen to your body. Tempo Runs are very useful for developing anaerobic threshold, essential for fast 5-K racing.

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your program is very diverse...which is good. You look good. I wish I had something more constructive to say but that's all I got!
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GOBBLA one of my main concerns is that I know that atletes who train for a certain event have different training cycles during the year.. In my weight training (I just started all this 5 months ago) I did general training in the summer and now am into more specifique pre-ski weight training. But on the cardio level I have now idea how to organise my year. Is it ok to vary tant much all year 'round or would it be better to do more of one sort of training in one period of the year.

as for helping, you've already helped by telling me about tempo runs
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just to caviat, buk is like a god, and bammadave is my personal hero...me...I'm just a guy that likes to spout off ideas. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm fitter than the average bear but my knowlege level is nothing compared to these guys.

before I spout anything too stupid...what exactly is\are your goal(s). What, in a nutshell, are you trying to accomplish?

Do you just want to maintain a high level of fitness? Do you want to be good at one thing in particular? What's your unicorn? (dream)
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I want to have that feeling of training seriously I had long ago. But without doing competitions, (I competed in fencing back then).

In the log I started on the forum, I say : "I’d love to have enough endurance to go X-Country skiing 4-5 hours and still be in shape to dance all night.. " So mid-december to mid-march would be important to me. I can train more than usual during the X-Mas 2 weeks, and have a few special days of x-country skiing planned in late february.

Dreamwise.. no.. my last fitness dream was 23 years ago. I appreciate every day that I attained it but now I guess it's more day to day.
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I'll drop in on your log...
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Hey, thanks, Gobbla!! I don't consider myself very knowledgeable about running training overall, though. I am still learning those things myself. My past training has gone really well for someone like me who is not in any way athletically gifted. And basically that training just kind of fell into my lap, because I live on the side of a mountain and started off training on difficult terrain. Difficult terrain = higher intensity, even if you don't want it to be. So, at least for me, I believe in the "pushing yourself to do harder things" concept. Lately I have been trying to be a little more regimented in my training, incorporating deliberate tempo runs or stamina runs at a little reduced intensity compared with a tempo run, shorter interval repeats (800 meters), longer runs with tempo intervals (1-1.25 miles with 0.5 mile slower segments for recovery), long runs, etc. I think the bottom line for improvement is to mix up your training (workout variety) with speed work, longer endurance work, and stuff in between.

Marykaa, sounds like your cardio plan is good to me, with a good mix of different workouts and intensities.
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BabaDave.. How lucky you are to live near a mountain! I have to take a 30 minute drive to get out of FlatLand.

More regimented in your training? excellent idea and Congratulations ! must be hard for a Mad Scientist to be regimented
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Mary, I enjoy living where we do. Our "mountains" here are more like ridges and large hills, but they are perfect for a hard running challenge without being completely impossible to overcome.

My wife and I spent a vacation in Quebec in the early 1990's. We really enjoyed Montreal... a very nice city!!
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BAMA DAVE Glad you liked it.. in which month did you come up here?
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