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Old 09-18-2008, 06:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm going to start working at the YMCA while I'm in my last semester of Physical Therapy school. It seems like a good environment where I get to learn under a strength coach, but not sure how many private clients I'll get there outside of helping train the high school athletes.

I was looking around for a second place to work, so that I can make extra money before clinic starts again. Anyone know a place for me to apply that doesn't involve pushing sales? I know that sales are important for businesses, but it's just retarded when that's all they care about instead of the quality of trainers.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I wouldn't look into commercial gyms if you want to avoid sales. That's like saying you want to go to a football game without screaming fans. The two are inexorably tied together.

If what you want to do is some coaching look for a school or something that involves being a good strength coach. A commercial club counts on its profit centers to generate revenues.

Even in a place like my club, where there is a sales staff and separate training staff, all my trainers have to be trained in sales, and they have to do their part to build their clientele.

You cannot count on someone else to give you clients. People want to train with the guy who helped them because they already imprinted on that person, and they have started to build that trust. The only way to do that is by being on the floor, stocked with truckloads of helpful and accurate information, a big smile on your face, and willingness to help.

If you must take a job like that, just take it but don't stress about numbers and quotas personally. If you work the floor with the mentality that you are simply there to help those who need it, people will pick up on it, and I guarantee that you will exceed any arbitrary quota placed upon you by a club.

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Old 09-22-2008, 08:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks for the advice, I know that it's up to me to pick up more clients and I'm fine with that. The only problem I had was that places I've interviewed at only cared about sales. They had the attitude that all trainers know how to train (very false) and sales is what separates one trainer from another. I interviewed at a corporate gym that will involve picking up clients, but they don't seem to be pushing sales down my throat.....hopefully that goes well.
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thanks for the advice, I know that it's up to me to pick up more clients and I'm fine with that. The only problem I had was that places I've interviewed at only cared about sales. They had the attitude that all trainers know how to train (very false) and sales is what separates one trainer from another. I interviewed at a corporate gym that will involve picking up clients, but they don't seem to be pushing sales down my throat.....hopefully that goes well.
I have some experience with clubs in NYC and if you PM me I'd be more than willing to give you my honest opinion about the places...
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I was looking around for a second place to work, so that I can make extra money before clinic starts again. Anyone know a place for me to apply that doesn't involve pushing sales? I know that sales are important for businesses, but it's just retarded when that's all they care about instead of the quality of trainers.
I think sales is the wrong word - think more "marketing", and you're going to have to do that no-matter what you do, even you're a physical therapist -

If you're not really committed to training and are biding your time, than you can't really expect much in terms of a desirable work environment - if you do decide to get serious about it, go solo (independent, apart form any gym)- it's the most fun you'll ever have -
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I think sales is the wrong word - think more "marketing", and you're going to have to do that no-matter what you do, even you're a physical therapist -

If you're not really committed to training and are biding your time, than you can't really expect much in terms of a desirable work environment - if you do decide to get serious about it, go solo (independent, apart form any gym)- it's the most fun you'll ever have -
I totally agree with the marketing aspect in the CPT and PT world. I just didn't want to work in an environment where they cared solely on sales and not the qualities that I brought to their facility. I might try going solo as an additional job when I graduate from PT school. Right now I'm just focused on learning as much as I can under the strength coach at my job. How is it going solo???
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How is it going solo???
Going great - read my blog: SUPER-TRAINER | How to Become a Personal Trainer | Trainers: DUMP THE GYM NOW!!!
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Everybody sells something in one form or another. If nothing else, you're selling yourself.

From engineers, to technicians, to teachers, doctors, lawyers, coaches, actors, media personalities and bonafide "salesmen". The sooner you realize this and take it to heart, the better off you'll be.
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Everybody sells something in one form or another. If nothing else, you're selling yourself.
Valid point, but not in context. You know full well what he meant.
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I really think that everyone should learn to embrace sales. I did.
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