No, but at some point, you're just beating a dead horse. We get it - Jimmy's a liar. Jimmy sucks. Enough already.
You guys are worse than the paparazzi is on Britney!
You by all means have the freedom to not read this thread (or any other thread for that matter) if youre tired of it.
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You by all means have the freedom to not read this thread (or any other thread for that matter) if youre tired of it.
I certainly understand that Art, I'm not an idiot. Just wondering why there's such a vendetta against Jimmy right now. It appears that you're fishing for stuff to slam the guy with.
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This thread is a joke. Either buy the Muscle Bible or move on.. I think i'll buy it now and see for myself.
Oh NOES dont but teh Musckles Bible!!!111
No one cares about the MB nor was anyone telling you not to buy it. Thanks for adding some irrelevance to this dead thread though.
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Got this email from Jimmy last night. To his credit, he's not too bad with spamming his subscribers. However, I listened to it on the way to work and noticed his intro is a virtual rip-off of Wine Library TV by Gary Vaynerchuk. Jimmy's even calling his podcast the "Thunder Show". That's pretty cheesy.
Valerie Waters
P.S. One more thing: This price of The Strengths Mastery Advantage System may change at any time. And it certainly won’t go down. Also, the payment option is something I’m trying that may or may not be available for long. So, I urge you, no, I implore you to get this system today, now, while these generous terms are still available. It will truly transform your business and your life... guaranteed!
i have gotten to the point where when i see the typical, cheesy, "act now for the special price of $50 and you get a gazillion free bonus gifts valued at over $3000" crappily-put-together long-ass overly-wordy sales page, i close that browser window and forever stereotype that trainer/guru/lameass as a NUMBSCULL trying to make a quick buck by selling "products"...not as an experienced, reputable professional who actually works with clients day in and day out and walks the talk.
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Someone must've drunk too much champagne and fallen asleep while cutting and pasting
I'd be the guy who was drunk and fell asleep while cutting and pasting.
I helped Valerie set the club up and I sorta stole a style sheet from someone elses site.. I liked the background and how he had some stuff set up. Which I ended up screwing up anyways..
Anyways, thanks for pointing it out - and thanks to the chick who directed Val (and I) to this thread.
i have gotten to the point where when i see the typical, cheesy, "act now for the special price of $50 and you get a gazillion free bonus gifts valued at over $3000" crappily-put-together long-ass overly-wordy sales page, i close that browser window and forever stereotype that trainer/guru/lameass as a NUMBSCULL trying to make a quick buck by selling "products"...not as an experienced, reputable professional who actually works with clients day in and day out and walks the talk.
Unfortunately most of America falls for this shit and these people are making a killing.
What if it's good stuff and they're just fighting the good fight against the crap programs? I saw a pretty dumb, but stupid-people-effective, 30 minute infomercial for a door mounted chinup bar the other day. $29.00.
Yes, the ads are stupid and for stupid people, but stupid people deserve to be lean as well. As long as they can pay for it...
The trainers who can write great and motivating diets and programs, and yet aren't marketing to stupid people, are screwing the stupid people over. Royally. But hold yer heads up high and sleep well tonight!
What if it's good stuff and they're just fighting the good fight against the crap programs? I saw a pretty dumb, but stupid-people-effective, 30 minute infomercial for a door mounted chinup bar the other day. $29.00.
Yes, the ads are stupid and for stupid people, but stupid people deserve to be lean as well. As long as they can pay for it...
The trainers who can write great and motivating diets and programs, and yet aren't marketing to stupid people, are screwing the stupid people over. Royally. But hold yer heads up high and sleep well tonight!
Very VERY good point there! And now i'm in deep-thought mode, AGAIN! argh! lol
I guess my business is biased. I make a living off highly-educated, wealthy, successful people. They are far from stupid. I've been training some of my clients for five years. They stick around. If they stop training with me for a period of time, they come back down the road. AND they listen to me...again, they are far from stupid ;D
I don't do online marketing...except for my blog...which is done entirely by your's truly. If I decided I wanted to market myself online and/or sell products like everyone else does, who would I turn to for assistance that A)isn't just in it to make more money off me, B)would help me put together a CLASSY product/website/whatnot, and C)would help me create an online presence that DOESN'T make ME look stupid, as i'm trying to reach the stupid people?
I don't know if there's anyone out there like that.
Again, i'm not much of a sheep that follows the herd...and maybe that makes me naive.
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Partly, you have to pay someone to be a good designer. The crap out there can be done by a piss-drunk monkey typing with his wang. But it's cheap, comes pre-ready to paste in your own "BUY NOW" copy and BAM! website. I know a LOT of trainers who will bitch about how people should get a pro (like them) to help them train, but then try to DIY their own website, rather than pay a designer.
THEY are the ones that fall for the schleppy BUY NOW DIY websites, and then of course everything is gonna come out looking like velveeta left in the sun too long.
Just like they're all wanting to do their own logs in word or excel or whatever, some cheezy grid to stick up and let someone download and go "now what?"
I hate bad design. Yes, I know bad design can sell shit. But in this day and age, we're so damn bombarded with BRIGHT SHINEY FLASHY LOOK AT ME BUY ME NOW ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT HURRY WHILE SUPPLIES LAST THIS IS AMAZING STUFF YOU CAN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE AS SEEN ON TV shit, I actually think something that just looks GOOD for a change might have a chance. maybe.
Partly, you have to pay someone to be a good designer. The crap out there can be done by a piss-drunk monkey typing with his wang. But it's cheap, comes pre-ready to paste in your own "BUY NOW" copy and BAM! website. I know a LOT of trainers who will bitch about how people should get a pro (like them) to help them train, but then try to DIY their own website, rather than pay a designer.
THEY are the ones that fall for the schleppy BUY NOW DIY websites, and then of course everything is gonna come out looking like velveeta left in the sun too long.
Just like they're all wanting to do their own logs in word or excel or whatever, some cheezy grid to stick up and let someone download and go "now what?"
I hate bad design. Yes, I know bad design can sell shit. But in this day and age, we're so damn bombarded with BRIGHT SHINEY FLASHY LOOK AT ME BUY ME NOW ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT HURRY WHILE SUPPLIES LAST THIS IS AMAZING STUFF YOU CAN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE AS SEEN ON TV shit, I actually think something that just looks GOOD for a change might have a chance. maybe.
I'M WITH YA!
Wasn't it Andre Agassi that said "image is everything?"
I don't wanna look like melted cheez-whiz!
My mom is an artist, which explains why I appreciate aesthetics. My dad is the director of the public libraries for a county, which explains why I can't stand overly-wordy crappy sales pitch websites (with typos all over the place). I'm cursed!
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What if it's good stuff and they're just fighting the good fight against the crap programs? I saw a pretty dumb, but stupid-people-effective, 30 minute infomercial for a door mounted chinup bar the other day. $29.00.
Yes, the ads are stupid and for stupid people, but stupid people deserve to be lean as well. As long as they can pay for it...
The trainers who can write great and motivating diets and programs, and yet aren't marketing to stupid people, are screwing the stupid people over. Royally. But hold yer heads up high and sleep well tonight!
Exactly!
I used to feel the same way and very jaded but two of those long pages changed my life.
John I counted 6 products on your page. Pot meet kettle bro.
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Given that both have a history of plagiarism (Ferg moreso than AC) I wonder who copied who. Or maybe it was Jimmy's renegade web guy in India, Gupta, who has struck again.
What I found amusing was one of the latest t-mag articles where Chris Shugart decided to cite scientific evidence from a FICTIONAL book rather than actual research. One may call that efficient though since youre getting your leisure and research done in on shot:
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Originally Posted by Element from MI
Point 2 in the article
"Why does it work that way? It's perhaps related to a concept known as "cultural para-stimuli." Nobel laureate Victor Starling coined the term after conducting an infamous study on cats. First, he took half the cats in the study and performed a type of brain surgery on them that made them act in bizarre, often self-destructive manners. Then he put them in with the rest of the cats.
Did the crazy cats normalize their behavior to match that of the sane cats? Nope. The normal cats adopted the crazy behaviors of the surgically brain-damaged ones."
The opening pages of Tom Wolfe's new book, I Am Charlotte Simmons, describe the Nobel Prize-winning accomplishments of fictional psychologist Victor Starling. Starling removed the amygdala - the control center for emotions - from 30 cats, causing them to enter a state of "sexual arousal hypermanic in the extreme." The de-amygdalized cats were then placed in relative proximity to control cats, which, after a period of time, exhibited the same sexual arousal, though their amydalae were completely intact.
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