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04-19-2008, 07:44 PM
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Getting Younger
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Defense is the American spelling, the rest of us spell it defence.
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04-20-2008, 12:13 AM
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Plaid Shorts Rule!
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You mean the proper way, Stu ... 
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04-21-2008, 06:06 PM
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clipboard cowboy killer
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From Robertson's latest newsletter:
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Mike,
Just dropping you a note to say thank you for Magnificent Mobility and Inside Out. Or, I should say my clients thank you because they have been reaping real physical benefits from the knowledge you, Bill, and Eric have coalesced into excellent products.
Thank You,
Chris Bathke,C.S.C.S
Los Angeles, CA
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Now that has GOT to be fake 
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04-21-2008, 10:07 PM
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Ha, doesn't everyone use the word "coalesce" in casual conversation?! 
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04-21-2008, 10:28 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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Just the articulate ones I suppose.
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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04-22-2008, 03:43 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Chambersburg, PA
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Originally Posted by GqArtguy
FYI Jimmy, a lot of us on here are not just fitness consumers, a lot of us are also trainers and have our own training businesses outside of the internet so its not like youre speaking to an uneducated audience. RL was completely right in how you should be conducting yourself despite getting angry.
This is an open board community (unlike t-mag) and since the posts here are asking you questions that are on topic, theres no need to be cloak and dagger about this.
Didnt you just say it wasnt worth it to go after them legally?
Like Shark said, its not that it doesnt math up to anyone's expectations, it doesnt match up with the facts period. That is undermining any 'truth' youre claiming.
You havent. Youve ignored many of the questions in this thread under the veil that a mysterious group of people are out to 'drag you down' just like your renegade webmaster mysteriously decided to take down the 29daystofasterfatloss site. Get angry if you want, but if you want to be legitimately angry at something, be angry over what dishonesty has brought on you.
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Actually, I do believe him when he says it would be fruitless to pursue legal action in this matter. Apparently, the entity that built the site is in India. If he prevailed and got a judgment or a court order, how would he enforce it in India? If he could enforce the judgment, would there be anything to collect. So he would spend a lot of money for virtually no result.
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04-23-2008, 12:22 PM
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Better Than Ninja
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Location: Rhode Island
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Greg, Gq's not saying that he should go after them. Jimmy said he wouldn't say anything about who screwed him because it would interfere with his ability to persue legal action, but Jimmy already said he wasn't going to persue legal action. So again, the facts don't add up.
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04-23-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gregl515
Actually, I do believe him
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Naive.
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04-23-2008, 06:22 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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That part of the sentence without the context of what he actually typed might make him appear so, but his entire sentence was actually:
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Actually, I do believe him when he says it would be fruitless to pursue legal action in this matter.
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I don't think that sounds like he's proclaiming overall belief.
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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04-23-2008, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jean-Paul
That part of the sentence without the context of what he actually typed might make him appear so, but his entire sentence was actually: I don't think that sounds like he's proclaiming overall belief.
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Exactly. Isn't Greg a lawyer? He'd have a pretty good idea if it would be worth it.
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04-24-2008, 10:08 AM
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Prime Motivator
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Originally Posted by ljk
Ha, doesn't everyone use the word "coalesce" in casual conversation?! 
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I actually heard JP use the word copacetic once in an actual sentence. I think it was a drug flashback from his youth.
As for Greg's statement. Yes, he is an attorney and far from naive. He is being quite the realist in what he says.
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04-24-2008, 10:14 AM
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Plaid Shorts Rule!
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Originally Posted by Ian Kay
Exactly. Isn't Greg a lawyer? He'd have a pretty good idea if it would be worth it.
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Yes, he is, and fwiw, I agree with him.
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"Whether you think you can or think you can’t, you are right." - Henry Ford
"UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss
"Life is no brief candle to me. It is sort of a splendid torch which I have got hold of for a moment, and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations." - George Bernard Shaw
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04-24-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Court
Yes, he is, and fwiw, I agree with him.
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That does not matter, because his statement is based on the assumption that Jimmah actually did offshore his website to India. I believe that is very, very, very naive. I must tell you that the most prudent method for examining Jimmah's statements are to just assume he's lying, and then go from there.
Jimmah's entire business model is based on a series of lies. The first lie is that Jimmah is a well respected fitness professional. The second is that Jimmah's cohorts are well respected fitness professionals. Et cetera, et cetera...
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04-24-2008, 06:01 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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Location: Little Rock, AR
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You're arguing about apples and they're arguing about oranges.
I haven't heard of these companies from India doing small websites... I figured they were only for major companies that outsourced to save hundreds of thousands.
I have always been willing to pay a little extra to make sure I'm getting quality web design though. I cannot even begin to tell you how much this site has cost over the years.
I won't get into the rest of your comments, but I do think it's a bit of beating a dead horse. This thread died a few days ago.
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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04-24-2008, 07:04 PM
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Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Jean-Paul
You're arguing about apples and they're arguing about oranges.
I haven't heard of these companies from India doing small websites... I figured they were only for major companies that outsourced to save hundreds of thousands.
I have always been willing to pay a little extra to make sure I'm getting quality web design though. I cannot even begin to tell you how much this site has cost over the years.
I won't get into the rest of your comments, but I do think it's a bit of beating a dead horse. This thread died a few days ago.
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Nice try, JP. You're trying to pull a straw man out of your ass here. Good one.
You are purposely misrepresenting what I was talking about. All I said is that it's naive to believe any of what Jimmah has said in his own defense.
I'm beating a dead horse here? From what I see, this thread has already had significantly more views than those that have been STICKIED on other parts of this forum for months or years.
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04-24-2008, 07:35 PM
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I think, therefore I post
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Yeah, it has had a few views.
I'm not trying to pull a strawman out of my ass. I stated clearly that I wasn't going to comment on your main point.
I agree that Jimmy didn't conduct himself professionally, both in his execution of the site and his subsequent comments to this forum's members. But I won't engage in name calling or piling on of anyone. I won't censor this thread (unless someone just gets pointlessly ugly), but I hate to watch it too. It's kind of like a trainwreck.
I am also aware that we got a few new members who seem to have ony popped in here to pour more gasoline on the fire. I hope to see some more positive contributions to the forum other than "hating" on some young trainer who doesn't warrant this much energy. Check out our training, injury, or nutrition forums. We have some good discussions going on in them.
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Jean-Paul Francoeur
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"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
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04-25-2008, 04:36 PM
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Better Than Ninja
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Location: Rhode Island
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wow... was it necessary to delete my entire post even though it had some other stuff it not related to the back and forth member bashing? that's kind of disappointing.
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