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Just dropping you a note to say thank you for Magnificent Mobility and Inside Out. Or, I should say my clients thank you because they have been reaping real physical benefits from the knowledge you, Bill, and Eric have coalesced into excellent products.
Thank You,
Chris Bathke,C.S.C.S
Los Angeles, CA
Now that has GOT to be fake
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FYI Jimmy, a lot of us on here are not just fitness consumers, a lot of us are also trainers and have our own training businesses outside of the internet so its not like youre speaking to an uneducated audience. RL was completely right in how you should be conducting yourself despite getting angry.
This is an open board community (unlike t-mag) and since the posts here are asking you questions that are on topic, theres no need to be cloak and dagger about this.
Didnt you just say it wasnt worth it to go after them legally?
Like Shark said, its not that it doesnt math up to anyone's expectations, it doesnt match up with the facts period. That is undermining any 'truth' youre claiming.
You havent. Youve ignored many of the questions in this thread under the veil that a mysterious group of people are out to 'drag you down' just like your renegade webmaster mysteriously decided to take down the 29daystofasterfatloss site. Get angry if you want, but if you want to be legitimately angry at something, be angry over what dishonesty has brought on you.
Actually, I do believe him when he says it would be fruitless to pursue legal action in this matter. Apparently, the entity that built the site is in India. If he prevailed and got a judgment or a court order, how would he enforce it in India? If he could enforce the judgment, would there be anything to collect. So he would spend a lot of money for virtually no result.
Greg, Gq's not saying that he should go after them. Jimmy said he wouldn't say anything about who screwed him because it would interfere with his ability to persue legal action, but Jimmy already said he wasn't going to persue legal action. So again, the facts don't add up.
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That part of the sentence without the context of what he actually typed might make him appear so, but his entire sentence was actually: I don't think that sounds like he's proclaiming overall belief.
Exactly. Isn't Greg a lawyer? He'd have a pretty good idea if it would be worth it.
Exactly. Isn't Greg a lawyer? He'd have a pretty good idea if it would be worth it.
Yes, he is, and fwiw, I agree with him.
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"UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss
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That does not matter, because his statement is based on the assumption that Jimmah actually did offshore his website to India. I believe that is very, very, very naive. I must tell you that the most prudent method for examining Jimmah's statements are to just assume he's lying, and then go from there.
Jimmah's entire business model is based on a series of lies. The first lie is that Jimmah is a well respected fitness professional. The second is that Jimmah's cohorts are well respected fitness professionals. Et cetera, et cetera...
You're arguing about apples and they're arguing about oranges.
I haven't heard of these companies from India doing small websites... I figured they were only for major companies that outsourced to save hundreds of thousands.
I have always been willing to pay a little extra to make sure I'm getting quality web design though. I cannot even begin to tell you how much this site has cost over the years.
I won't get into the rest of your comments, but I do think it's a bit of beating a dead horse. This thread died a few days ago.
You're arguing about apples and they're arguing about oranges.
I haven't heard of these companies from India doing small websites... I figured they were only for major companies that outsourced to save hundreds of thousands.
I have always been willing to pay a little extra to make sure I'm getting quality web design though. I cannot even begin to tell you how much this site has cost over the years.
I won't get into the rest of your comments, but I do think it's a bit of beating a dead horse. This thread died a few days ago.
Nice try, JP. You're trying to pull a straw man out of your ass here. Good one.
You are purposely misrepresenting what I was talking about. All I said is that it's naive to believe any of what Jimmah has said in his own defense.
I'm beating a dead horse here? From what I see, this thread has already had significantly more views than those that have been STICKIED on other parts of this forum for months or years.
I'm not trying to pull a strawman out of my ass. I stated clearly that I wasn't going to comment on your main point.
I agree that Jimmy didn't conduct himself professionally, both in his execution of the site and his subsequent comments to this forum's members. But I won't engage in name calling or piling on of anyone. I won't censor this thread (unless someone just gets pointlessly ugly), but I hate to watch it too. It's kind of like a trainwreck.
I am also aware that we got a few new members who seem to have ony popped in here to pour more gasoline on the fire. I hope to see some more positive contributions to the forum other than "hating" on some young trainer who doesn't warrant this much energy. Check out our training, injury, or nutrition forums. We have some good discussions going on in them.
wow... was it necessary to delete my entire post even though it had some other stuff it not related to the back and forth member bashing? that's kind of disappointing.
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Chris, you have a good point. JP deleted all the posts about bashing but I think the following part of your post is worth preserving. I'm sure JP didn't intend to delete this part which was unrelated to his concern. Here goes:
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JP, regarding off-shoring to India: That's something available to small business people too. You, as an individual, can hire an assistant overseas to do almost anything for you - answer your phones, manage your calendar, email and schedule dates with women on Match.com... there's a book called "The 7 minute work day" or something like that. One of my friends found himself suddenly "inspired" by the book, and has found himself on a quest to make as much money as possible doing as little as possible. He is currently, of course, poor and unemployed!
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I won't get into the rest of your comments, but I do think it's a bit of beating a dead horse. This thread died a few days ago.
You would think that Jimmy would have learned from this but check this:
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Female leg training is a very interesting topic. Due to the shear amount of leg work that females do and the amount of cardio that they do, I've found more benefit with having them on a single leg. Now I won't take full credit for that as I heard Alwyn Cosgrove mention it in a interview. That's the first area that I would look since it gives them a more intense training sessions without adding heavy weight.
Thats fine, he cites Alwyn for an idea.
But if you watch this, youll see he doesnt credit Lyle on the Ketogenic diet: YouTube - burn fat
or on the Stubborn Fat Loss Protocol
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Q:What are your thoughts on stubborn belly fat, cortisol, and men? What have you found to be the most effective strategies to remove the fat when this is a stubborn area for a man?
A: Assuming that the individual in question has dieted down and is around 10% bodyfat then I'd suggest two methods.
-I'd mix high intensity and slow and steady cardio. I've been playing with 5 minute of intervals followed by 10 minutes of steady state work followed by another 10 minutes of a mix of intervals and steady state work. In this third phase you'd perform two intense intervals of 45 seconds sprinting and 15 seconds jogging followed by 2 minute of steady state work then repeat.
or on the Protein Sparing Modified Fast
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There are certain rules however. You must have your protein set up depending on your activity level. I'm not one for complex charts so go with 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. You can have unlimited quantities of vegetables since they will provide enough fiber to fill you up. You must take in a multivitamin and other vitamins to reduce stress like vitamins B,C and E. The only fat source that you'll get is from fish oil and other essential fatty acids and you must have planned diet breaks.
Its not like Jimmy doesnt know this is Lyle's stuff because JS spent a lot of time mooching off Lyle's site only asking for research paper requests and not contributing.
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Perhaps Jimmy didn't show enough professional courtesy, however, where is it set that you have to reference every idea or theory?
In the above examples, it's not like he has come out and said "hey I’ve just developed x,y and z. He's simply discussing concepts and what he's trying with his clients.
It seems like trainers can't discuss different methods without running the risk of getting called out for not providing an arms length bibliography.
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Perhaps Jimmy didn't show enough professional courtesy, however, where is it set that you have to reference every idea or theory?
In the above examples, it's not like he has come out and said "hey I’ve just developed x,y and z. He's simply discussing concepts and what he's trying with his clients.
It seems like trainers can't discuss different methods without running the risk of getting called out for not providing an arms length bibliography.
Theres nothing wrong with discussing concepts but when someone asks you for YOUR thoughts and you start giving them a detailed explanation of someone's work, how hard is it to say where it came from?
Clearly we can see that he has no trouble naming Alwyn, so why not name Lyle? Its not set that you have name every theory, but his choice of theories named reinforces the circle-jerk impression that these gurus give off.
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i understand why my comment was deleted. I would like to acknowledge that my intent was understandably lost in internet translation. What I was hoping to be (and with the absence of emoticons, this is more or less impossible) was a bit sarcastic.
What I mean is, are we on a mission to persecute this guy to destruction or what? Oh my, he didn't reference every single person who used a theory or principle he's discussing? Please, let's just let it die, yea?
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So acting unethically within a business enviroment is best forgotten and ignored?
No, but many posts were deleted because they were ridiculously immature -- lots of name calling and playground mud slinging, using nicknames for him that are obviously used on some other site, inside jokes from elsewhere, etc.
If so then I'm having a hard time believing that this is an actual question from a "client" of his. It's more of a set up to pass of knowledge learned from someone else as his own.
Pretty pathetic.
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