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Old 03-28-2008, 10:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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can anyone let me know what orgainization they went through to get certified as a personal trainer? was looking into American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM). good/bad? anything would be helpful. want to get started asap. thanks
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I was just certified last week through the ACSM. It is one of the most respected certs in the business according to the people I talked with. it was harder than i thought it was going to be but I passed it first try( i guess a lot of people don't) Now i am trying to figure out where to go from here.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not a huge fan of ACSM personally. I went to their summits for years and found myself shaking my head at most of the presentations. Most especially their "expert sessions" where they lay out their training philosophy.

But, a cert is a cert. I don't care who the applicant is certified through... Just need to have one to get through the door. I do the rest of the training after I hire my employees.

If you haven't certified yet, NSCA CSCS is probably the most respected and has become the gold standard if you ever want to publish. NASM is very good too. ISSA isn't bad from what I've seen either.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree with JP, and I'll add certified does not necessarily mean qualified. Certs will get your foot in the door (if, as you say, you want to get started asap), but it's your continued learning that will set you apart from the others. I have the NASM cert (CPT and PES), however, most of my continued learning hasn't come from NASM per se, but just from attending seminars (Perfrom Better is great!), reading sites like this, and just being humble and learning from the more experienced trainers. Best of Luck!

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Old 04-04-2008, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I totally agree with the certification just being the beginning. Ive seen trainers with more degrees than a thermometer but they cant train anyone worth a damn. However ive seen people with minimal certification being wonderful. What it all comes down to is the trainer.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I can't think of ONE TIME in my entire 21 year training career that a single client has asked me with whom I was certified. You only sell yourself to gyms, other trainers or publishers with your certs. Your results are what talks with the clients, and all they care about is that you are certified.
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I can't think of ONE TIME in my entire 21 year training career that a single client has asked me with whom I was certified. You only sell yourself to gyms, other trainers or publishers with your certs. Your results are what talks with the clients, and all they care about is that you are certified.
I 100% agree with JP. The only reason I have continued to get most major certs is because it helps me make more money at my gym. The only time certification comes up is during casual conversation after I am training a client.

I feel that the biggest issue to most clients is your ability to communicate exactly what you can do for them. This is where most trainers struggle.

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I can't think of ONE TIME in my entire 21 year training career that a single client has asked me with whom I was certified.


So, uh.... with whom are you certified????
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Old 04-20-2008, 08:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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NFPT. I'm a testing official and a "subject matter expert" for them as well (meaning I meet with their SME team from time to time to examine and rewrite the test to maintain national accreditation).
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I was just giving you some crap JP!
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Old 04-23-2008, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I didn't take it badly. I don't have the greatest list of credentials. It was actually an issue years ago when I was trying to get into MH. Their minimum standard was the CSCS, which I feel quite confident I could pass, but since I dropped out of college I can't take it. They have a rule that there is no getting around... You have to have a degree, even if it's underwater basket weaving, before you can take the test. I don't like it, but I can understand why they do it.

It wasn't really necessary in my market either. I imagine in a bigger market with a more sophisticated clientele who is asking about certs and all, it probably would behoove me to certify-up. One of these days I will probably grab an NASM cert, but I'm not real motivated since it doesn't really mean much to my bottom line.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I totally agree with the certification just being the beginning. Ive seen trainers with more degrees than a thermometer but they cant train anyone worth a damn. However ive seen people with minimal certification being wonderful. What it all comes down to is the trainer.

Totally agree!!! You could have never said it better.

The essence of being a trainer is from within, you should have the passion to it. Papers are only good for displays and all.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Funny thing is, one of the most successful trainer I know ( makes about a quarter million a year training about 20 hours a week ) isn't certified ( and yes, he trains groups and charges about $45 per person for groups of anywhere from 4 - 12 people... too many in my opinion at one time but it works for him) No one EVER asks him if he's certified either.

I know plenty of other trainers with countless certs who barely have any clients and are almost always broke

I personally learned most of my training techniques from my own research. MM2000 (back when it had 2000 in the name), T-mag, Ian King, Poliquin, West Side Barbell, Michael Boyle, Siff and so on.

Also in the gym experience.

I think the certs give a trainer the confidence to say "I'm certified" and teach them some basics. But most of the real learning is best done outside of the curriculum

That said, if I were still training and were to go back and do it again I'd go NSCA, but I'm too lazy

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